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Guarantee he stands up in front of the team and at least addresses it, even if cliche. Him owning it and just saying, “I was doing what was best for me and my family. Business decision. I’m here to work and am fully committed to helping us win” I think guys will be fine and move forward
Probably. In this day and age (and generationally), I feel like this stuff goes unaddressed and the youngsters give the shrug emoji face.
 
Exactly. This is why it vanishes when they leave because the lessee retains their rights and transfers them as they see fit. The only way that the image rights would remain durable is if they’re attached to an employment agreeing tying them together. The NIL lease is only paid in exchange for appearing for the team where the player plays.
Is there a standardizh NIL contract that you’ve seen or are they somewhat unique? I assume there’s language in the contract about walking away, especially in a two year one.
 
Is there a standardizh NIL contract that you’ve seen or are they somewhat unique? I assume there’s language in the contract about walking away, especially in a two year one.
I’ve only seen details of what’s been posted about contracts. Most of these agreements have NDAs so we only know what comes out in these possible lawsuits. I’m talking about the frameworks from these situations across sports. In European sports, players often make these wild deals with clubs regarding their Name and Image. In the US, the individual property component is stronger in these claims, so it makes it slightly different.
 
The game is different. Not long ago committing to stay with a team, then bailing for another team, then ending up staying would be seen as betrayal of his teammates.

There will likely be some players on the team who still feel that way but I think most will recognize that he was trying make some extra millions, business decision that if they were in the same position they would seriously consider themselves.
I’m not sure…especially the ones not earning millions.
 
Exactly. This is why it vanishes when they leave because the lessee retains their rights and transfers them as they see fit. The only way that the image rights would remain durable is if they’re attached to an employment agreeing tying them together. The NIL lease is only paid in exchange for appearing for the team where the player plays.
What the **** are you talking about?
 
I’m not sure…especially the ones not earning millions.
There will always be some people who resent the actions of others but at this point P4 football is a business. These guys are college students but they are football players first or they wouldn't be there. Not many are getting millions of dollars but almost all of them are getting something.

Even if a guy is getting say $50,000 he is going to understand the appeal of looking someplace else that might give him $150,000. Doesn't mean he doesn't like or respect his teammates but he is willing to consider doing what is a substantial improvement in his finances.

Most of these guys aren't going to the NFL. They have 4-5 years to get what they can get before football is over for them. I think most of his teammates can understand and appreciate what he was looking to do.
 
What the **** are you talking about?
A team doesn’t just get a player’s NIL forever. The only thing tying them to the school is playing for the football team. If they unenroll and leave the team, the school doesn’t just get to say “I own your rights.”
 
A team doesn’t just get a player’s NIL forever. The only thing tying them to the school is playing for the football team. If they unenroll and leave the team, the school doesn’t just get to say “I own your rights.”
Agreed, but I assume the contract has an end date, so to your example of a lease the school pays for 1 year of usage of NIL and the agreement outlines damages to each party in the case of a breach of contract.
 
A team doesn’t just get a player’s NIL forever. The only thing tying them to the school is playing for the football team. If they unenroll and leave the team, the school doesn’t just get to say “I own your rights.”
They aren't entering into deals to play football. They are licensing their name, image, and likeness in exchange for money. Just because they go play football somewhere else doesn't mean that the first school loses its contractual rights to use the name, image, and likeness. As you said, they aren't employees, so these licensing agreements don't come with non-compete type provisions. They just say that school 1 has the exclusive rights to use the player's name, image, and likeness. If this went to court, UW would have sought an injunction preventing LSU from using Williams' name, image, and likeness, which by default would have prevented him from playing for LSU if UW won. The license agreement doesn't just go away.
 
They aren't entering into deals to play football. They are licensing their name, image, and likeness in exchange for money. Just because they go play football somewhere else doesn't mean that the first school loses its contractual rights to use the name, image, and likeness. As you said, they aren't employees, so these licensing agreements don't come with non-compete type provisions. They just say that school 1 has the exclusive rights to use the player's name, image, and likeness. If this went to court, UW would have sought an injunction preventing LSU from using Williams' name, image, and likeness, which by default would have prevented him from playing for LSU if UW won. The license agreement doesn't just go away.
These are the B1G contracts tied to revenue share which is tied to television rights which was one of the things in the House settlement. So by signing an agreement that conforms to the House agreement, UW basically owned his rights to appear on TV. Thus if he transferred, UW can't stop him, but they don't have to help him either, and LSU or any other school would be prohibited from having him appear on TV unless the school paid UW for his TV rights. UW would still be obligated to pay the player, but in turn could sell those rights to the other school for more than they paid for them. Basically if LSU had agreed to pay $6MM, UW could say, well we want LSU to pay us $6MM because that is what they had agreed to pay him, or pay UW $2MM and buy the NIL rights and obligation to pay the player his $4MM. In the end because he signed already, there is no way anyone would pay him more, he has a contract already. It wouldn't prevent him from playing, he could step down to Div III and play in any non-broadcast game.
 
Agreed, but I assume the contract has an end date, so to your example of a lease the school pays for 1 year of usage of NIL and the agreement outlines damages to each party in the case of a breach of contract.
The contract has an end date provided that the player is on the team and enrolled at the school.
 
They aren't entering into deals to play football. They are licensing their name, image, and likeness in exchange for money. Just because they go play football somewhere else doesn't mean that the first school loses its contractual rights to use the name, image, and likeness. As you said, they aren't employees, so these licensing agreements don't come with non-compete type provisions. They just say that school 1 has the exclusive rights to use the player's name, image, and likeness. If this went to court, UW would have sought an injunction preventing LSU from using Williams' name, image, and likeness, which by default would have prevented him from playing for LSU if UW won. The license agreement doesn't just go away.
They are signing the license only when they are on the team and enrolled at the school. In other cases, courts have forced schools to enter the players in the portal.

The school has no damages, so they would lose. The litigation would be protracted but the agreement is ultimately unenforceable if/when he leaves.
 
Here is the B1G contract. Basically, what I described above, also gives the B1G a 3rd party right to enforce. Precludes any other institution from licensing the players NIL without agreement from the university. Not tied to playing, but allows UW to terminate if they are no longer on the team, also gives them sole discretion on buyout or other compensation from another university.


I bet when LSU or any other university found out he had signed the agreement, they quickly backed off.
 
Here is the B1G contract. Basically, what I described above, also gives the B1G a 3rd party right to enforce. Precludes any other institution from licensing the players NIL without agreement from the university. Not tied to playing, but allows UW to terminate if they are no longer on the team, also gives them sole discretion on buyout or other compensation from another university.


I bet when LSU or any other university found out he had signed the agreement, they quickly backed off.
The B1G is now paying NIL? This agreement is outlandish.
 
Here is the B1G contract. Basically, what I described above, also gives the B1G a 3rd party right to enforce. Precludes any other institution from licensing the players NIL without agreement from the university. Not tied to playing, but allows UW to terminate if they are no longer on the team, also gives them sole discretion on buyout or other compensation from another university.


I bet when LSU or any other university found out he had signed the agreement, they quickly backed off.
That is an insane contract. I wonder how many of the bigger players are able to negotiate a more lenient contract. This effectively removes the Student Athletes ability to transfer unless the new school is willing to take a major hit. This is just like when they were only able to transfer once and then after that, it’s more restrictive. Taking a lot of the power back from the athlete. I don’t like this at all. We need change but this isn’t the right way imo.
 


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That is an insane contract. I wonder how many of the bigger players are able to negotiate a more lenient contract. This effectively removes the Student Athletes ability to transfer unless the new school is willing to take a major hit. This is just like when they were only able to transfer once and then after that, it’s more restrictive. Taking a lot of the power back from the athlete. I don’t like this at all. We need change but this isn’t the right way imo.
I don't think it is that insane. It is a limited term contract, as negotiated between the school and the player. Once the term ends, the player is free to go. Up to the player to negotiate a 1 year, 2 year, or longer term. I don't give 2 ****s about the players ability to transfer when they are being paid $4MM. The want to be paid like pros they should be treated like pros. Don't like it, go play FCS or D2.

The B1G has a vested interest in this as the TV rights are pooled together and sold by the B1G The monies paid to the players are coming from those TV rights.
 
I don't think it is that insane. It is a limited term contract, as negotiated between the school and the player. Once the term ends, the player is free to go. Up to the player to negotiate a 1 year, 2 year, or longer term. I don't give 2 ****s about the players ability to transfer when they are being paid $4MM. The want to be paid like pros they should be treated like pros. Don't like it, go play FCS or D2.

The B1G has a vested interest in this as the TV rights are pooled together and sold by the B1G The monies paid to the players are coming from those TV rights.
I’m not as concerned about the big money guys. It would be ****ty for the guy that’s making the low end of the pool and isn’t able to crack the lineup. And how willing to negotiate are the teams?
 
I’m not as concerned about the big money guys. It would be ****ty for the guy that’s making the low end of the pool and isn’t able to crack the lineup. And how willing to negotiate are the teams?
The bottom JAG guy isn't signing an agreement, probably just some standard if you are on the team you get X amount. If he signs something like this contract, same thing, once you sign you are locked in. I think the confusion in this whole bru-haha was that UW negotiated a deal, he signed, then 2 days later announced he was entering the portal because some non-agent told the player that he could get more from LSU. He had his opportunity and could have not signed and entered the portal, but his agent negotiated a fair compensation and he signed before the portal opened. I think as soon as LSU found out he already had signed a deal and not just agreed to an offer they backed off and he went crawling back to UW.

No B1G school was going to touch him and I bet the SEC probably strongly advised their schools to also stay away as I bet they have very similar language in their contracts.
 
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