Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Buffs1990, Dec 6, 2012.
finally - someone sees the light!
Blind leading the blind.:lol:
What does CU gain by pulling the deal? Jones is the one that looks like an ass now.
I can't see any program looking at him...he's stuck in Cincy - I guess that's justice enough :lol:
Yippeee, it's the "we hate Bohn" circle jerk.
how the **** is this asshat in the green?
Hate to break it to you, but I don't think Jones is long for Cincy.
So if you gave him a deadline and he didn't decide and you pull the offer. How exactly is that outcome any diffrent that what you have right now? You didn't get him either way and you're moving down the list.
Nobody got played. The dude chose another path. Have you ever hired anyone?
We can continue to act like Bohn knows how to conduct football coaching searches or we can acknowledge he tends to fall far short. The interview process, negotiating, setting criteria (it HAS to be a current head coach), all of it.
Joel Klatt, is that you?
Good one, Nash.
Apparently expecting competency in coaching searches is quite the bar to reach.
So true. Did he REALLY take a look at any other candidates(We all know Strong was merely a pawn to save face once Embree pulled the race and we really had no shot at Strong) other than Butch? It will be interesting to see how this plays out because in the past Bohn moved so fast on the new hire from a really small talent pool(it's called Tunnelvision IMO) that there was little time to even have this debate.
I guess this time we actually have some real HC's(other than Embree and Bienemy as the top candidates) as candidats, but the way this is going down is eerily similar to the last two debacles, except this time our #1 guy said no.
You are interviewing plan B candidates starting Wednesday morning instead of finding out Thursday morning you've been had and now scrambling because you held out for a deal that got worse by the hour. In other words, you hold the bag of money, you call the shots instead of the other way around.
And it isn't just a day. If you have, for instance, talked to Jones on Monday and asked for an answer within 24 hours, you could have already arranged the interviews, plane flights etc. to be moving as soon as the deadline passed. Instead, it appears MB stood around like a HS girl saying : "He said he would call". And now has to scramble. Who knows, if he would have taken control of the negotiations he might be closing a deal for Sonny Dykes today instead of looking like a jilted schoolgirl. Dykes is gone now. To me that is one big opportunity cost to letting Jones dangle CU for nearly three full days.
None of the other schools looking for HC's stood around and waited for their candidates like MB. Or at least if they did, they had the sense to keep it quiet.
Butch pulled this stunt on Marshall 3 years ago. Had an offer and verbal agreement with Marshall to replace Mark Snyder, then went back on it and ended up at Cincy...it's his MO
Why are you guys assuming that Bohn hasnt been talking to backup candidates already. I actually expect us to announce a deal tomorrow. Signed and delivered. We just gotta wait long enough toake it look like we are scrambling.
I agree. I'll be surprised if this takes longer than the Kent State guy to Purdue announcement.
Are you kidding?????? How gullible can CU fans be?
I can assure you that several other candidates have been thru the phase 1 process. Jones was the first choice and they went after him.
My only beef is it was too public. We don't know if that's Bohn's fault or someone else such as Jones, his agent, the Cincy AD......
On to candidate #2.
It is an assumption, I don't know. I also assumed the longer Jones dragged this out the more likely it was that MB was getting played. Turned out to be generally true. All any of us can go on is what we see in the media. Maybe MB does have a guy in mind. So far I see a search that looks kind of amateurish. Surprise me Mikey.
I agree that he may have missed his opportunity. If you continue to turn down big programs, pretty soon they'll stop calling. Not only that, if you're in his shoes, you've got to strike while the iron's hot. If the theory that he can only win with Kelly's kids turns out to be true, he might not look as awesome in a year or two. Also, I didn't realize how small time Cincinnati is. Despite the awesome product they've put on the field for the last 6 or 8 years, they're still only drawing 20K fans to their games, and apparently, the tickets are really cheap. No wonder a big conference doesn't want them. Bad choice professionally for Jones. Must have been based on personal life considerations (like a happy wife, being big fish in small pond, etc.).
Same outcome, but without getting played. That's not really the same outcome, after all.
To me, Jones leveraged his (faux?) outrage to withdraw a verbal offer (I'm confident there was one). We'll see if he ends up at TN. I'm no fan of 1990 or Rialto, but I think they diagnosed this one correctly.
Bohn allowed himself to be strung along in good faith on a man's word. That word turned out to be hollow, and our AD was used to achieve someone else's agenda. That's not really a desireable outcome.
Tennessee has now offered two coaches $5 million. (Gundy and Strong) Both turned it down.
Go ahead and fire Bohn. You'll be lucky to get Stitt as head coach and you can kiss all the facilities goodbye.
And a proper search committee would have vetted that. Throw darts at the dartboard, and you end up like this.
BuffThat^^^^Bazzing, bank says BJ's agent doesn't leak the amount of the counter offer....anyone here believe Cincy matched 2.7? I don't think so....
Now you tell us?
I've been reserving judgement on Bohn. But this is pretty indefensible. He went all in and lost.
I sure hope Bohn...if he is around (have not heard about him lately).....is knee deep in interviews with someone
No way they matched that number. That would make him the highest paid in that conference by a lot. How do you justify paying that when your program can't draw any fans? This is not a franchise that travels awesome, is on TV all the time, sells lots of hats, etc.
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