That’s the correct frame. This is a death match. Gotta survive.
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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Or this could be a negotiating ploy on the part of the 4 corners schools to let the PNW schools know they aren’t in a position of strength.
GoBuffs08
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Big12 more stable because SEC and B1G have no interest in taking any of the remaining teams. Pac TV negotiations without USC and UCLA, from any credible source appear to be lackluster. UW and UO will leave the Pac the minute they get an invite from B1G or SEC. CU sucks, and any hope for a B1G invite is going to come many years from now as a final team to round out whatever B1G and SEC do once the ACC GOR deal is over.
Most of the Tweets suck too
True, but the gifs make me giggle.
I hope CU shows their commitment to the little 12 by signing a long GOR so CU is precluded from being a target of a real league later. #stability
font acknowledged, but this strikes me as one of the biggest obstacles to any merger of Pac / ACC / XII schools -- nobody wants to commit long term in fear of shutting themselves off from a P2 bid.
I'm familiar with that quote, but I have never heard it attributed to Truman. A brief google search seems to confirm this:
Lies, damned lies, and statistics - Wikipedia
There Are Three Kinds of Lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics – Quote Investigator®
quoteinvestigator.com
EDIT: lol. I found someone who attributed it to Truman- a made up guy at a fictional council meeting in a Washington Examanier Op-Ed:
Bastard Wit - Washington Examiner
The angry man at the town-council meeting snarled, “As Harry Truman put it, ‘There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.’ ” “No,” answered his tension-easing neighbor, “that was Mark Twain. You remember, the guy who also said, ‘The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer...
www.washingtonexaminer.com
This appears to be an accurate summation. And the fact that no one really seems all that upset that the PAC12 will just die outright, pretty much confirms the whole premise, for me.
Fascinatingly, there will likely be no major west coast CFB league after all of this “realignment.” Now that’s a real “realignment”!
I think Harry Truman stole the quote! He is a liar tooI'm familiar with that quote, but I have never heard it attributed to Truman. A brief google search seems to confirm this:
Lies, damned lies, and statistics - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
There Are Three Kinds of Lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics – Quote Investigator®
EDIT: lol. I found someone who attributed it to Truman- a made up guy at a fictional council meeting in a Washington Examanier Op-Ed:
Bastard Wit - Washington Examiner
The angry man at the town-council meeting snarled, “As Harry Truman put it, ‘There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.’ ” “No,” answered his tension-easing neighbor, “that was Mark Twain. You remember, the guy who also said, ‘The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer...
ahoelsken
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My whole argument was meant to rebut yours-which (and I'm being nice about this) is based in 10 year old logic. The only thing that matters is TV revenue. The Big 12 will make more because both networks want a piece of their rights.
ahoelsken
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Kind of jibes with what we've been hearing though on the revenue sharing.
Its time for the four of us to kill this ****ing piece of trash conference. Oregon and Washington are getting what they deserve here. **** them.
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Oh please please please….
241Volcanos
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ESPN dumb to not adjust terms, take top 6-8 Pac to ACC and create a relatively cheap 3rd power conference.
Pope
"here to throw poop at my betters"
So Colorado can choose to stay in the Pac light, earn around $20 million/year, not have access to the playoffs, and hope for an invite to the P2 years later that almost certainly will never arrive, or they can jump to the Big 12, agree to their long-term grant of rights, earn $50-60 million/year, and have access to the playoffs.
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
Seems like a no-brainer to me.
Ha, yeahhhhh. However, it'll go to 12 teams in a couple years, and CU would have made it in 2016 had it been that way.
Welcome, your eminence!
241Volcanos
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$50-60? Is B12 giving CU unequal revenue rights?
ahoelsken
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Okay so when Texas pushed uneven revenue sharing 11 years ago, CU should have run to the Pac 10. When Oregon and Washington push uneven revenue sharing this week, another conference is a leverage play?
I don't know about you, but the idea of the ducks and dawgs sitting on transcontinental flights to play Wake Forest makes me smile.
One of the big winners from this round of realignment could be the MWC if things go as they seem to be moving:
1. Lost no one to the Big 12 when they went BYU/Cincy/Houston/UCF.
2. Pac-12 fell apart instead of expanding after losing USC/UCLA, so didn't get its most valuable assets poached.
3. Likely to gain OSU & WSU.
1. Lost no one to the Big 12 when they went BYU/Cincy/Houston/UCF.
2. Pac-12 fell apart instead of expanding after losing USC/UCLA, so didn't get its most valuable assets poached.
3. Likely to gain OSU & WSU.
How do we know that CU (and others) didn’t use other conference affiliations as a negotiating ploy 11 years ago, only to have UT tell us to kick rocks?
All those revenue gains going up in jet fumes...
My post really needs to be read in his voice for full effect.