They already do. UBL?
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MacIntyre contract approved in 8-0 vote
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I get that feeling about you as well.
Ha ha, you should.
BerkeleyBuff
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Jeebus.
jizzrag85
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My parents owe me a lot of money in unpaid labor for all those times they made me go outside and play at the park too I guess.
DrunkRalphie
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Did your parents make millions of dollars in revenue when you played at the park?
Oddly, I have those exact same concerns, and I love the game...
jizzrag85
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Probably not but they didn’t trade me 50-100K either.
My parents did.
You're the ghost of the Nebraska kid that got eaten by the alligator?!
Yes, I'm a terrible person.
You mean like $200,000 in education and living expenses?
I get where she’s coming from but ...the players aren’t technically unpaid (stipend) and certainly aren’t uncompensated. For me the rub is a matter of equity...is their current compensation fair considering the amount of revenue that is generated?
DrunkRalphie
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That is an entirely different point then people arguing they are uncompensated/unpaid.
Maybe for the very elite. So are you going to have a floating pay scale?
DrunkRalphie
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Not particularly. Receiving an amount far below what could be conceivably gained in a free an open market shouldn't really be called compensation.
Get out the waahmbulance.
No one forces them to play college sports in exchange for no student loan debt, free gear, fame, and the possibility of fortune after the fact.
8Jah
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Yes it’s way more than fair. Minor league baseball players get far less and they have no support system and crappy facilities.
8Jah
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It is a free and open market. They can leave for the NFL or Canadian football whenever they wish. Most of them will find in that free market they get paid nothing.
DrunkRalphie
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Would you take pennies on the dollar for your work salary and call it fair compensation?
I'm sure no one is forcing you to work your job in exchange for your salary or benefits. By the same logic I hope you don't feel the need to ask your boss for a raise or more vacation, etc.
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DrunkRalphie
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Why do you feel that college football players aren't entitled to a fair wage based on the amount of revenue they generate for their universities? Surely you don't feel this way about other workers in America. Why are they special and must be consigned to making less when no one else in the working world expected to live under these rules?
One of the biggest issues with this is that you either pay ALL of the scholarship athletes or you "pay" none of them. Sure football is the highest revenue generating sport at the collegiate level. That revenue equals millions of dollars for the athletic departments. Athletic departments in turn take that revenue and convert it straight into other sports.
You will not be able to pay football players and no one else. The system doesn't work that way. Because it doesn't work that way, the system would collapse. AD's cannot afford to pay a stipend to every single scholarship athlete, so they would cut any program that doesn't turn a profit. Basically leaves you with football and men's basketball.
You will not be able to pay football players and no one else. The system doesn't work that way. Because it doesn't work that way, the system would collapse. AD's cannot afford to pay a stipend to every single scholarship athlete, so they would cut any program that doesn't turn a profit. Basically leaves you with football and men's basketball.
Way to set up a strawman.
Let's take your premise to its logical conclusion. Treat them all like real employees. So if they are all employees, that means the school should be able to fire them if they don't perform on or off the field. They should be able to pay some more than others. The employees should be able to quit to take a new job whenever a better one comes along.
This isn't apples to apples with the real world.
8Jah
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The harsh truth is that scholarship athletes are compensated far more than they are worth. They should be counting their blessings.
Workers in the free market are compensated for their market value, not for a percentage of the total revenue of their employer.
Athletes receive more in scholarship and living stipend (not to mention facilities, tutoring and massive amounts of athletic tutelage) than most college graduates will receive in their first jobs. Compare that to minor league baseball players who barely make make minimum wage.
In fact Basketball and Football have solved a major problem by building a collegiate minors system that uses the pride and loyalty of students, alumni and the states/communities represented as a built-in fan-base to create the athletic revenues needed to compensate developing players at a level that is unprecedented in the whole world. In fact, all these revenues are reinvested back into facilities, staff and scholarships for all the student athletes. There is nothing left over to add to the already awesome compensation that student athletes already receive.