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Official D coordinator search thread (DJ Eliot hired?)

The thing is, any young coach that most people are going to be happy with being hired is probably not going to come cheap. Sirmon would have taken a pretty big chunk of the salary pool, so I am not convinced the "established" hires are going to be significantly more expensive.
 
Jeric said:
I'm not convinced it matters -- outside of the need to make this hire quickly for other reasons -- since we may not be targeting the type of guys those schools are (Diaco, Lupoi, etc.). Right now it seems: Diaco to NU, Lupoi to Cal (if they somehow allow that), and wouldn't be surprised if Rhoads was simply promoted if Arkansas loses on Diaco. Not sure what Wisconsin does, maybe DeRuyter or Walker, seems like their type of move. CU is the odd one out, but at the same time it means our options are wide open.
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Having our options "wide open" to pick anyone we want from the list of guys nobody else in the P5 wanted doesn't really feel like something we should be happy about.
 
SuperD said:
Having our options "wide open" to pick anyone we want from the list of guys nobody else in the P5 wanted doesn't really feel like something we should be happy about.
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Maybe so, I wasn't saying it as a good or bad thing. But I think it simply means we aren't in the same position, all those teams want an experienced proven guy (except Cal and there are good reasons people here don't want Lupoi) but that may not be what we're looking for, Sirmon certainly didn't fit that description. If Cal were last and hired Lupoi would you make the same judgment? Probably not, so I don't think it's necessarily true.
 
Took a look at the competition in the Pac12.

School Coach prev. job
Oregon St Kunes Utah State DC (replaced Sitake, who was the DL coach at Utah prior)
Oregon Leavitt CU DC
WSU Grinch Missouri Safeties coach
UW Kwiatkowski Boise State DC
AZ Yates Boise State DC
ASU Bennett Baylor DC (replaced Patterson, who had been a DC at WVU for 1 year, and Tulsa for several)
UCLA Bradley Penn St DC
USC Pendergast Stints as DC at Cal, USC
Utah Scalley Utah position coach
Stanford Anderson Stanford position coach
Cal Kaufman DC at Cincy, other non-premier jobs. Recently fired.
 
http://connecticut.247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/Commits

Diaco’s ideas weren’t great; his coaching and recruiting abilities sucked, too. That last part might have been what did him in. UConn currently has the worst class in its conference, and nationally, the Huskies rank below UMass.



For a control freak coach, who likely wouldn't be okay with other members of the staff having input. And like holic said, no way we pay that money for a DC when MM is a defensive minded guy. "Missing out" on Diaco isn't the end of the world.
 
Look for other teams running the zero technique, 2-gap 3-4 defense we are running. Then find the brightest young recruiting oriented staffers within that system and see who is ready to be a DC.
 
When you automatically eliminate any established candidates due to being a "bad fit," makes it easier to call any hire a good hire, weird search timelines and all.
 
J.R. Ewing said:
I've settled on the premise that we're playing musical chairs, and CU is the kid that keeps getting edged out for a chair and is starting to panic.
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CU coaching hires seem to be an outlier in most respects. Strange. Now if CU lands some DC that ends up being money, then great. But I have to admit, it is hard to see right now from the outside looking in.
 
TSchekler said:
Funny how this was the perception in 2015 as well, until that kid swooped in and stole one of the last chairs and gave a big **** you to the doubters.
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It doesn't mean we won't find one, but it does show CU's has an uphill battle in hiring it's coaches. I don't know what percent of that battle is due to internal process, salary pool, or MM.
 
How many multi-year contracts are available for football right now?

Edit: found it in another thread:

1) Rick George, AD
2) Mike MacIntyre, FBHC
3) Tad Boyle, BBHC
4) J.R. Payne, BBHC
5) Jesse Mahoney, VBHC
6) Open (was Leavitt's)

Is Mac wanting to fill the DC role with a 1 year slot and perhaps open that spot for Chiv at a later time, for instance. I see Chiv becoming the full time OC sooner than later. Just a thought.
 
BlackNGold said:
Up until the 14th of December Jim Leavitt was a god on these boards. When it was rumored that MacIntyre might be interviewing at Baylor, fans were saying promote Leavitt to HC. Not one peep that I saw on these boards that he was a cancer on the team.

Now he leaves and these boards are full of innuendo without attribution of source that Leavitt was in MacIntyre's way all of the time. Now I hear how (from you) that MacIntyre wouldn't let Leavitt take over the defense - I hope that Leavitt was in charge of the defense he was the DC after all. One of the things that pisses me off on these boards is that some people think they elevate their heroes by tearing down other people. Leavitt can coach and had a hand in the success of this season.
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Again, you are completely taking my words out of context. Leavitt is a hell of a coach. The only people that wanted him to become head coach are those that blindly believe Leavitt was the only or MAIN reason this team had success.

Leavitt ran the defense, but the behind the scenes stuff wasn't being reported. Leavitt talked about taking over as head coach to some when MacIntyre failed this year. He tried to put his words into the offensive huddle. Maybe you didn't see the ASU blow-up on the sideline when Leavitt tried to "head coach" his way into offensive huddle (big no-no in coaching). Or you didn't hear the behind the scenes news that MacIntyre brought it up in a coaches meeting the following Monday and Leavitt and him got into it.

Leavitt is a very arrogant person. No matter what you want to hear but it is about him. He is a great coach, but he's a nut job and rubs many people the wrong way. He had a big help in the season, but so did having a great staff. The Leavitt supporters are elevating him as their hero and are already saying Mac will fail. It goes both ways. I am not tearing Leavitt down or elevating Mac beyond what both are, great coaches with completely different personalities.
 
I haven't seen anyone claim that Leavitt isn't a great defensive coordinator and motivator of players. I haven't seen anyone claim that he didn't do an excellent job at CU.

Critiques are in the area of a personality, m.o. & career aspirations that made this too combustible to last more than 2-3 years.
 
Buffnik said:
I haven't seen anyone claim that Leavitt isn't a great defensive coordinator and motivator of players. I haven't seen anyone claim that he didn't do an excellent job at CU.

Critiques are in the area of a personality, m.o. & career aspirations that made this too combustible to last more than 2-3 years.
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And don't forget the fact he couldn't recruit worth a damn. Know that was brought up before but felt the need to reiterate that point :)
 
Has Jason Tarver been mentioned? He was DC w/ Raiders. Was DC at Stanford. Would be funny to repeat history.

Also going to mention Vince Oghobaase. Played at Duke when Mac was there. From Texas. Would be to be a DL coach and make Jeffcoat pass rush specialist coach.
 
J.R. Ewing said:
I've settled on the premise that we're playing musical chairs, and CU is the kid that keeps getting edged out for a chair and is starting to panic.
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But, but, but ...

Whereas CU has some of the best training facilities in the nation.

Whereas CU is honored to have the Coach of the Year leading the program

Whereas CU is a ranked team coming off a 10-win season

Whereas the 2017 recruiting class is one of the best in recent memory

Whereas the athletic director is dynamic and held in high regard by both the fans and administration

Whereas CU competes in the Conference of Champions, which includes P5 TV exposure and corresponding access to fertile west coast recruits

And Whereas Boulder is the kind of college community that other college communities want to be.

How the hell is it this difficult to quickly recruit some qualified DCs into Boulder? Certainly this is a dream job for some big dogs. The view out the office window is priceless, right?

Given all those whereas's, its just hard to imagine why CU doesn't have the spot filled by now, during this crucial recruiting period.
 
Clean Undies said:
But, but, but ...

Whereas CU has some of the best training facilities in the nation.

Whereas CU is honored to have the Coach of the Year leading the program

Whereas CU is a ranked team coming off a 10-win season

Whereas the 2017 recruiting class is one of the best in recent memory

Whereas the athletic director is dynamic and held in high regard by both the fans and administration

Whereas CU competes in the Conference of Champions, which includes P5 TV exposure and corresponding access to fertile west coast recruits

And Whereas Boulder is the kind of college community that other college communities want to be.

How the hell is it this difficult to quickly recruit some qualified DCs into Boulder? Certainly this is a dream job for some big dogs. The view out the office window is priceless, right?

Given all those whereas's, its just hard to imagine why CU doesn't have the spot filled by now, during this crucial recruiting period.
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I can't tell whether you're joking or mocking people who talk like this and it scares me.
 
Back-the-Buffs said:
And don't forget the fact he couldn't recruit worth a damn. Know that was brought up before but felt the need to reiterate that point :)
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Yeah. I don't know where people got the idea he was a great recruiter. Probably would do well if recruiting Florida to a FL program from his USF days, but that's about it. That said, if your coordinators give you much in recruiting it's a bonus rather than a typical job requirement.
 
Buffnik said:
Yeah. I don't know where people got the idea he was a great recruiter. Probably would do well if recruiting Florida to a FL program from his USF days, but that's about it. That said, if your coordinators give you much in recruiting it's a bonus rather than a typical job requirement.
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I wouldn't say our current DC is doing much for our recruiting either.
 
Sykobuff said:
Tsheck has made me see the light, MM will get the right hire and it will blow everyone away.
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The important thing to remember is whoever they hire give the guy a chance to coach the defense before rushing to judgment immediately. Not saying you specifically would do that but in general fans like to grade the hire before the guy ever coaches a down for your team. If MM hires someone and we are not blown away because it's not a "name" I feel like he'll just be the scapegoat every time an opponent gets a 1st down. Maybe I put too much trust in our HC of the year to hire the right guy?
 
Back-the-Buffs said:
The important thing to remember is whoever they hire give the guy a chance to coach the defense before rushing to judgment immediately. Not saying you specifically would do that but in general fans like to grade the hire before the guy ever coaches a down for your team. If MM hires someone and we are not blown away because it's not a "name" I feel like he'll just be the scapegoat every time an opponent gets a 1st down. Maybe I put too much trust in our HC of the year to hire the right guy?
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I suspect if it's not a "name" coach or an NFL guy, you'll hear plenty of folks here (myself included) wondering why this person could not have been hired weeks ago and hit the ground running when the recruiting dead period ended.
 
SINKRATZ said:
I suspect if it's not a "name" coach or an NFL guy, you'll hear plenty of folks here (myself included) wondering why this person could not have been hired weeks ago and hit the ground running when the recruiting dead period ended.
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Well in fairness, they did have their guy lined up prior to the dead period ending, but got button-hooked a little bit and had to go back to the drawing board.
 
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