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Official Game Thread: MBB vs Cal State Bakersfield
- Thread starter Goose
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They would have had to know how to in the first place. That's been something that's been bothering me all season. I have no idea how our numbers aren't lower in that category (right now we're allowing 31.2% when national average is 32.6%).
As for FT's, that one honestly stunned me. Sitting there watching the game, I kept thinking that we were shooting average at best. When I was listening to post-game and heard them say 22-of-26 I was speechless.
Pale Ale
Well-Known Member
Seems like Dre is the "star" of this team, yet he does not always live up to that billing.
The sooner this team starts taking on the attitude of the freshmen, the sooner they'll start kicking ass.
Team needs to let the Frosh be leaders. They are already doing it to some degree. Once that transition is complete, then Nate and Dufault can slide back into their comfortable roles and hopefully regain some semblance of consistency.
that would be nice, but our seniors can't take over a game and they can't lead the team. Look what happens when we get down, everyone looks for someone else to carry the team and more often than not it is either Dre or Spencer that do it.
:nod:
The quotes from The Mayor and Ski after the Wyoming game were telling. They were embarrassed by that performance and took it personally. They vowed that it was a performance they would never forget because the thought of it happening again makes them sick. Nate, on the other hand, said he wanted to put it out of his mind and move on to the next game.
Both schools of thought on dealing with losses have some merit, but the way the freshmen are is much more in line with how I think. You don't dwell. You focus on the task at hand. But you also take it personally when you and/or your teammates have a bad stretch in a game or lose a game because you didn't care enough at the time. That's intolerable. It's not like we're talking about a bad shooting night or simply being overmatched.
don't forget Dre after the CSU loss, he was really disappointed in himself after that one. We need more guys like those 3.
CVilleBuff
Well-Known Member
Tomlinson and Dufault are 1/3 of the way through their senior seasons. If they were going to step up and provide leadership, we likely would have seen signs of it already. It's not ideal, but it's clear that the frosh have to be leaders. It just isn't going to come from anywhere else
shang
Member
Nice recap goose... and as for the crowd count, it was close, student section obviously decimated but you gotta give the crowd kudos.... the last play of the first half, chen fast breaks for a layup over the MOVING defender, falls to the ground, ball rims around and in, and then seconds later, the ref calls a FRIGGIN CHARGE?!?!?!? and the crowd boos emphatically until the refs leave the court, and then after the half when the refs come back to the court to another emphatic booing session. One of the refs actually went up to chen to let him know he may have made the wrong call!??!?
W/ that being said, I have to agree w/ you on most points, but i have to disagree w/ you on Carlon...one of the most impressive stats and if you watched closely, Carlon played amazing and has the 8 assists to prove it!!! that no look pass cutting across the top of the key for dre's alley oop was serious!!! And as for Adams, I like what I saw of him in summer ball, but its so far has not been translating to the games... which I hope and beleive will come around as it did for Spencer but the reality is shooting .222 is not what I would call acceptable. And as for the glossing over on the bigs... sheesh, on paper they look like monsters, but the telling stat last night was Dre and Chen led the team on rebounds w/ 5 apiece.
I think you're right on Boyle searching out the lineup. There was a period during the first half w/ CU down by a bit that he inserted ski and chen, talk about a triple shot of expresso.....CU then closed the gap within minutes. My point being is i'd like to see ski, spence, chen, dre and carlon together, i think that line up can do some serious damage in a 5-8 minute span imho.... oh and as you probably guessed, I dig stats... here's one of the goofiest I've seen this year and normally I wouldn't blink if it were for a big, but its a guard.... who's shooting over 60% from the field, but is only 40% from the charity stripe??? goofy or what?!?!?
That was, without a doubt, in the top 10 of worst calls I've ever seen in my life. As for the crowd, other than that moment, they were dead. At the beginning of the game, I could have had a conversation with Boyle from my seat in the opposite corner. It had its moments, but for the most part it just felt lifeless.
Like I said with Carlon, I was probably being overly critical. During the game I found myself wanting him to do more, but when I heard his numbers I realized that I may have put unreal expectations on him and/or missed a lot of key plays from him. And that's huge. We need his consistency. And I do have to give him props for the oop to Dre. That was beautiful.
And while we're talking of dunks, how about Ski's dunk early in the 2nd?!? WOW.
I'm going to be completely honest here.
When he's dialed in, his ability and basketball IQ are off the chart. His will absolutely takes over games. I've only seen this once before in my life with this kind of player and that was with Dennis Rodman. Dre has the potential to be my all-time favorite Buff player.
Unfortnately, Dre is bi-polar with his attitude and performance. Maybe the offseason accolades got to his head a bit. Maybe he emulates Alec too much, who would get lazy on defense, rarely gave us 40 minutes of his best, and even had some games where his talent allowed him to skate bye and put up a good stat line despite being unfocused for that game. Alec was a lottery pick with that blueprint. Unfortunately, I'm seeing the same thing with Dre way too much. His defense this year has been bad. I don't trust him to man up and guard anyone even though I know that he could take any player on the other team off his game. I also don't trust him to box out since he can usually get by on ability without having to rely on fundamentals. He isn't giving up his body for the team by setting aggressive ball screens, diving for loose balls, or taking charges.
When Dre is focused and angry, he's an unstoppable force on a basketball court. He controls the glass. He shuts down the guy he's guarding. He disrupts the other team's offense with his help defense. He gets our fast break going. He gains us extra possessions with hustle plays. He provides a scoring punch that isn't dependent on the offense flowing well or shots falling. He's a game changer in so many ways. If we can get that Dre every night, we become a good basketball team. And if he does that, he becomes a 1st round draft pick that every team in the Association would love to have on its roster.
shang
Member
Hell YEAHHHHH!!! that was a great dunk!!!!