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I don't think I'm overthinking anything. We all got excited because we thought we were getting the Kent State offense, and it's clear and obvious we aren't running that in the slightest. The OL is awful and the OL coaching isn't good, either, but those are micro problems within a true macro issue, IMO.
Our desires and CP/SS desires aren't necessarily aligned, IMO
Shedeur’s biggest numbers have been in games where we had a minimally credible threat to run the ball. I think that will be something they’ll address this offseason. We won’t be a heavy dose run team but we will likely get more balance, especially when our analysts and others start the interview process in the offseason.
My biggest concern is that I don't have much to go on with Leftwich developing a QB for his system. He did a fantastic job of working with Tom Brady, crafting a system for Tom, and collaborating with him to make him comfortable & happy with game plans & play calls. But working with an elite vet NFL QB is a completely different animal from designing a college offense and getting college QBs ready to perform in it with very limited practice & meetings hours.
Even when he was OC in PHX, Leftwich offenses were pass heavy and run light.
Nobody on any defense at any level is watching the QB carry out fakes anymore. Defensive players read their keys and react accordingly. A fake roll out after a handoff is not fooling anybody.
Which is true for a traditional pro set under center, but the zone read run game relies on taking a defender away with the QB run game. Our run game concepts are pure zone read type action, but without the threat of any actual read, thus we are always outmanned at the point of attack.
Agreed. We are not a Zone Read offense. We may call ourselves that, but we're not. SS 2 could run around in circles, pump fake and dance a jig back their after the read, but everyone knows he's not pulling it not is he going to roll out and put the defense in conflict. It's either give or drop back which is why I don't even know why we pretend.
O'Neil is definitely dual threat and exactly what Lewis is looking for.
Sometimes the PA is a timing thing even though it's a worthless fake situationally. There's some value on route timing and without that PA beat the QB would be looking at his first option too early. At least it's supposed to be that well designed, but college offenses & QBs aren't always that perfectly synchronized.
Same thing it's going to do if he does stay healthy - lose every game remaining on the schedule.
Honestly they should start doing designed QB running plays regularly.
At least he could protect himself.
2 is a solid runner but sometimes he looks bad as a RPO guy. I honestly don't believe it works for him but that's just me
Are people confusing read option and RPO?
They are. Most is zone read with traditional run blocking, not RPO (though there is a bit of that I've seen).
I am talking run pass option and the reads expected from a QB who excel in that scheme like Colin Schlee at Kent State now at UCLA
Zone read is fine. I am talking RPOs. Basically QBs faking the ball to running backs and deciding to keep or it, run it, or pass it depending on how the defense is reacting to the play
K. Just was confusing mixing his description as a runner with a RPO discussion
They’ve only run RPO <20 plays. Despite his reticence, it has produced some of the year’s best runs.
That's becoming a thing in the NFL now, mostly stemming from Philly's success. If Shedeur can figure it out, it would significantly enhance his draft value and not limit the teams interested in him.
This is a huge point. Through the first three games, we finished a play, got back to the LOS and ran another in about 10-15 seconds. We are doing none of that anymore. We get back to the LOS, but the play clock is usually down below 10 seconds when we snap the ball the last few games. Very weird.
Feels like they either felt they needed to slow things down to ensure communication between OL and QB were good or they decided that no huddle fast paced offense was doing the defense a disservice. The latter feels most likely.
