dyemeduke
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Polarized statements such as this are just as aggravating as ones from the counterpoint, such as the OP.
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Tad has to go
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Polarized statements such as this are just as aggravating as ones from the counterpoint, such as the OP.
CitizenKane
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Basketball version of the football bowl eligibility post?
I mean Tad has lost to Hawaii at Diamond Head twice now, Patton only lost to the Rainbows once!!!!!! ITS JUST BASIC MATH PEOPLE!!!!!!!
True...I was drunk. But it's seems misplaced to believe Buffs basketball has ever been better without Tad. There is not a lot of parity in College Basketball, there are a handful of elite teams and then there are the rest. CU is not and has never been UNC, Duke, Arizona and Kansas...but having a coach (like Tad) who is great at player development, is great for CU, wants to be here, keeps us competitive, and has beat the KU's and Arizona's is a gift not to be overlooked.
Patton sucked duck is a bit harsh. Neither he or Tad has a Sweet 16 appearance. I love Tad as I loved Patton, but around the 10 year mark it's time to explore some other options. We need a damn team that makes some noise. We need to heighten these standards dammit!!! Okay, I may be just a bit frustrated.
The bolded part is frustrating because Tad's first year had Sweet 16 potential (thanks NCAA committee!), Dinwiddie's last year had Sweet 16 potential (thanks Washington!) and even the P12 tourney championship was on track to make it if that guy on Baylor didn't have the 10 minutes of his life. We've had the talent to make it several times.
What’s really annoying is the poor recruiting, habitual mediocrity and endless bad play on the road from Boyle’s teams.
He beat Virginia once. I don't really have anything negative to say about him, but why exactly should he be a someone to consider?
aghcsm
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I’m thinking a Rocky Mountain tourney would be nice. A convenient way to dispose of Air Force, CSU, Wyoming, DU, New Mexico, UNC and another on a long weekend without having to bother playing each of them.
I think the natives are restless a year early, although a full collapse would change my mind
Birch1
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Boyle should stay. For at least another year. But these articles and posts about only a few legendary coaches who could possibly replace Tad Boyle are asinine. Yes, Gregg Popovich would be better than Boyle. Yes, we get the sarcasm. But what gets lost is the fact that there are other good coaches out there who would kill to move up to the CU job.
Boyle is such an upstanding guy. We can’t lose him. But we’ve got to right the ship here. It’s tough to create a compelling argument for another year of the same.
Boyle is such an upstanding guy. We can’t lose him. But we’ve got to right the ship here. It’s tough to create a compelling argument for another year of the same.
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Birch1
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Haha
Firing Tad right now isn't going to change this season any, we are done.
We need RG to have the conversation with Tad now though. Discuss what Tad thinks is going wrong and what is his plan to change it. Establish some benchmarks, set some very specific goals in terms of recruiting. Essentially let Tad know that either something has to change and specifically state what that looks like or changes will be made.
The program under Tad started out great but in recent years it has been in decline. Tad has earned time to get to reasonable goals including NCAA tournament berths in most seasons but the direction of the program needs to be turned around now.
We need RG to have the conversation with Tad now though. Discuss what Tad thinks is going wrong and what is his plan to change it. Establish some benchmarks, set some very specific goals in terms of recruiting. Essentially let Tad know that either something has to change and specifically state what that looks like or changes will be made.
The program under Tad started out great but in recent years it has been in decline. Tad has earned time to get to reasonable goals including NCAA tournament berths in most seasons but the direction of the program needs to be turned around now.
Losing on the road to ASU by 22 isn’t that bad. Tad is a good guy with a rolling contract renewal. He deserves it. Recruiting has been on the uptick, including Alex Strating, Thomas Akyazili, Lazar (the 3 point laser) Nicolic and Kenan Guzonjic. Pac12 top to bottom gets harder every year. The player development has been good too. Collier, Miller-Stewart, Treshawn Fletcher, Ja’Ron Hopkins, Deleon Brown all improved leaps and bounds.
Tad needs to clean out his staff, everyone but English and Tomlinson need to go
Sykobuff
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He got you, need the sarcasm font.
BuffG
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There's been a seismic shift in applying math to basketball over the last 5 years. It goes deeper than just shooting more 3's. It's about identifying the most valuable shot locations e.g. the corner 3 is worth 1.3 pts per attempt while a post-up is worth .78 pts per attempt
Josh Scott was a great player, possibly all-time Buff. He is Tad's only top 100 recruit who lived up to it. Old school and earnest just like Tad. He could do a lot of different things but his game was mostly post-ups and long 2's. He may have been drafted if he was born 5-7 years earlier. Instead, post-ups and long 2's went extinct in the NBA.
I bring Josh Scott up to say that, like him, Tad is very good at what he does and it can continue to bring some success but the lengths of which are severely capped in the new world order. Warming up to using a little zone on defense in 2017 is like warming up to using email because you got your first smartphone.
Josh Scott was a great player, possibly all-time Buff. He is Tad's only top 100 recruit who lived up to it. Old school and earnest just like Tad. He could do a lot of different things but his game was mostly post-ups and long 2's. He may have been drafted if he was born 5-7 years earlier. Instead, post-ups and long 2's went extinct in the NBA.
I bring Josh Scott up to say that, like him, Tad is very good at what he does and it can continue to bring some success but the lengths of which are severely capped in the new world order. Warming up to using a little zone on defense in 2017 is like warming up to using email because you got your first smartphone.