He turned Auburn's offense around last year, before Cam Newton was behind center..
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He turned Auburn's offense around last year, before Cam Newton was behind center..
Bama Charlie
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Would you want him from last years results? or when he was at Tulsa?
He made Chris freaking Todd look like a competent SEC quarterback. Am I convinced he would be a great head coach? No. Do I attribute all of Auburn's success to Cam Newton? Absolutely not.
But hey, why would I expect a Bama fan to ever have an objective opinion of anything Auburn related?
Bama Charlie
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Check out my quotes on our OC also.
Bama Charlie
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Have you seen a barn game? Have you seen their offense? especially last year? It is a high school offense based on smoke and mirrors. I am not a fan of gimmick type OCs.
So basically Malzahn and McElwain get no credit whatsoever for their offenses being pretty damn good? I don't really care why Malzahn was hired at Arky, he produced big time while there. He also produced at Tulsa and then at Auburn. Last I recall during Tuberville's last year the offense was dreadful, absolutely Colorado level. He seems to have turned that around quite nicely, including last year.
I see your point about the lack of experience, but to make him out like he's the Mark Helfrich of the southeast, that's just laughable.
:lol::rofl2::lol::rofl2::lol:
Buffellow85
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Charlie, if you were looking for a replacement for Hawkins from the SEC, who would be on your wish list?
Bama Charlie
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Does Arkansas's offense then remind you of Auburn's today? Hell no. Everybody down here knows he never coached there under Nutt.
Does Mitch Mustain look like Cam Newton? Hell no. Is it possible he alters his offenses according to the personnel he has on the field?
Bama Charlie
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The bad thing is I think you followed the right formula last time but it didn't work out and everybody wants to go the OC route. I think CU is too good a school to be teaching a coach how to be a head coach [hiring OCs and DCs who have never been a HC and for the most part are a success because of their players].
Mullen at MSU is going to be a great coach.
:wow: How is Mullen not exactly what you are talking about? Could we not attribute most of his success to Timothy?
I think you're confused where Colorado is. We can't go steal the Dolphins head coach. We can't even steal a head coach in waiting from Texas. Hell I doubt we could steal any of the non BCS top guys like Patterson, Peterson, or Willingham. We have to go the OC/DC route or get a guy that is without employment for whatever reason like: Mike Leach (No), Mac (Maybe), Bellotti (Yes) etc.
I think you're confused where Colorado is. We can't go steal the Dolphins head coach. We can't even steal a head coach in waiting from Texas. Hell I doubt we could steal any of the non BCS top guys like Patterson, Peterson, or Willingham. We have to go the OC/DC route or get a guy that is without employment for whatever reason like: Mike Leach (No), Mac (Maybe), Bellotti (Yes) etc.
That Bill McCartney guy really sucked. I can't believe CU went after a guy with no HC experience, he was just a lowly OC.
Agreed. Head coaches at Boise State are where it's at. Ask Colorado, Arizona State, or Arkansas.
Just for fun lets look at the current AP top 10
1Oregon (49)8-01487 Chip Kelly, no HC experience that I know of. Hell no BCS level experience other than Oregon OC for like 2 years either.
2Boise State (7)7-01403 Chris Peterson. OC under the great Hawk. No HC experience that I know of.
3Auburn (2)9-01396 Gene Chizik. Terrible work as the HC of Iowa State. But hey, some HC experience.
4TCU (2)9-01350 Gary Patterson. No HC experience before TCU, mostly position coaching positions.
5Alabama7-11228 Nick Saban. Plenty of HC experience, taken from an NFL team, probably not an option for Colorado to go this route. Maybe Rex Ryan wants to come coach here?
6Utah8-01147 Kyle Whittingham. Position coach and DC for a few years. No HC experience.
7Wisconsin7-11113 Bret Bielema. Not any HC experience as well as not much DC experience. 5 years as LB coach at Iowa, 2 years of Co-DC at KSU, 2 years as DC at Wisconsin.
8Ohio State8-11010 Jim Tressel. Lots of HC experience at Youngstown State. Even Ohio State couldn't locate someone with a little more going for them than being the HC at Youngstown State for 14 years?
9Nebraska7-1974 Bo Pelini. No HC experience. Solid amount of position coach experience and a few years as a DC.
10Stanford7-1950 Jim Harbaugh. Hilarious lack of experience. He was the head coach at UCSD for 3 years, so he had that going for him.
I'm liking the SEC arguments. They have great coaches and assistants imo, but they still piss and moan about how they suck. If they get 3 TD's, they bitch about how they didn't get 4. If the offense gets four hundred yards, they bitch about not being able to get 500.
SEC fans are something, boy.
SEC fans are something, boy.
Harbaugh was head coach at USD, the University of San Diego. Medium sized catholic school with no scholarships in FCS. I also think that Harbaugh is the best coach in the country. Had to be picky here on you, USD is my alma mater.
I keep having these wonderful dreams about Harbaugh patrolling the sidelines in Boulder.
Why?put les miles on the list and put him in the top six
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Pretty sure Malzahn was awarded Offensive Coordinator of the Year his first year at Arky - not bad for a HS coach.
Ah you're right, I saw the San Diego so I just thought it was UCSD. I honestly didn't even know there was just a University of San Diego.
I'm not sure Harbaugh is the best coach in the country, but he is certainly pretty damn good. His lack of experience wasn't a dig at him, it's just funny that Bama Charlie places such an emphasis on it, and yet look at that list. There's pretty much no certain formula that we can look at and get a winning coach. Some of the coaches on there put in the work and finally got a HC gig. Some, like Harbaugh, put in a little work, got a break, and have done amazing at the schools they're at. All I know is, the NFL route is not the ticket.
go see barzil
You can't post it here?
if you dont feel like reading barzil... then you dont need to know
Again, why can't it be seen by regular posters? Super secret top notch uber scoop? Okay AZ. :lol:
tell you what... if i can get someone to substantiate it ill post it here... fair enough
OT... you've been nothing but a giant douche lately... i don't know why... and quite frankly i don't give a **** anymore... but if you got a problem with me tell me privately otherwise... get ****ed
OT... you've been nothing but a giant douche lately... i don't know why... and quite frankly i don't give a **** anymore... but if you got a problem with me tell me privately otherwise... get ****ed
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:lol: Dude. The internet is full of rumors. I'm sure one more won't make much of a difference.
You asked me to place Les Miles on the list. I asked why. So that makes me a jerk? :lol: Okay.
and i told you its in barzil... youve done nothing but challenge anything i say lately...
If asking you to explain your stance is "challenging" you, then okay. :lol:
Bama Charlie
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Mustain was there one year and never played much. He is at SC right now. They had McFadden, Jones, and Hillis and they ran the wildcat a lot.