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2013-2014 Non-Conference Schedule Predictions

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  1. HawaiiBUFF

    HawaiiBUFF Well-Known Member

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    The '13-'14 Non-Conference schedule was released today and I wanted to see how everyone thought we would finish before conference play.

    1) November 8th - Baylor (Dallas)
    2) November 10th - Tennessee-Martin (Home)
    3) November 13th - Wyoming (Home)
    4) November 16th - Jackson State (Home)
    5) November 18th - Arkansas State (Home)
    6) November 21st - Santa Barbara (Home)
    7) November 24th - Harvard (Home)
    8) November 30th - Air Force (Away)
    9) December 3rd - Colorado State (Away)
    10) December 7th - Kansas (Home)
    11) December 13th - Elon (Home)
    12) December 21st - Oklahoma State (Las Vegas)
    13) December 28th - Georgia (Home)

    I think at best we are going to start 9-0, lose to Kansas, then finish 3-0. That would put us at 12-1. At the worst I think we lose to Baylor, but then go 8-0, to get to 8-1. Then drop both Kansas/Oklahoma State to finish 10-3. Thoughts?
     
  2. Quattro

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    1) November 8th - Baylor (Dallas) W
    2) November 10th - Tennessee-Martin (Home) W
    3) November 13th - Wyoming (Home) W
    4) November 16th - Jackson State (Home) W
    5) November 18th - Arkansas State (Home) W
    6) November 21st - Santa Barbara (Home) W
    7) November 24th - Harvard (Home) W
    8) November 30th - Air Force (Away) W
    9) December 3rd - Colorado State (Away) W
    10) December 7th - Kansas (Home) W
    11) December 13th - Elon (Home) W

    12) December 21st - Oklahoma State (Las Vegas) L
    13) December 28th - Georgia (Home) W
     
  3. FLounder

    FLounder The Buffs will rise again! Club Member

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    I'm feeling pretty uneasy for the Harvard game. We may overlook them.
     
  4. Quattro

    Quattro Banned BANNED Club Member

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    I really, really doubt we overlook at tournament team at home
     
  5. jgisland

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    9-4

    1) November 8th - Baylor (Dallas) L (Isiah Austin should be healthy and they have three 4* guys coming in. And counting on one of the CU frosh to make an impact on the road in a big venue the first game of the year is tough)
    2) November 10th - Tennessee-Martin (Home) W
    3) November 13th - Wyoming (Home) W
    4) November 16th - Jackson State (Home) W
    5) November 18th - Arkansas State (Home) W
    6) November 21st - Santa Barbara (Home) W
    7) November 24th - Harvard (Home) L (CU's likely to lose one of the 3 games between Harvard, Air Force and CSU, I'm picking Harvard.
    8) November 30th - Air Force (Away) W
    9) December 3rd - Colorado State (Away) W
    10) December 7th - Kansas (Home) L
    11) December 13th - Elon (Home) W

    12) December 21st - Oklahoma State (Las Vegas) L
    13) December 28th - Georgia (Home) W
     
  6. CVilleBuff

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    What a horribly pessimistic view for a top-20 team. We will not lose to Harvard in the CEC and we will beat 1-2 teams out of OSU, Baylor and Kansas. Our starting 5 can match any team in the country.

    Let's not forget we have a 1st rounder at PG and future pros in Xavier Johnson and Josh Scott. (who brutalized Isaiah Austin last year btw) Not to mention 3 freshman coming in who were all in the top 150. There's a reason CU is going to be ranked...

    10-3 at worst.
     
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  8. BehindEnemyLines

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    Talk about a culture change. Damn!

    It's only August and we're debating potential wins/losses for the Basketball teams ooc schedule.
     
  9. jgisland

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    Mark it on the calendar, 8-12-2013. When going 9-4 in OOC is considered "horribly pessimistic" at CU.

    Do you realize that CU lost to ASU and Oregon St at home last year a loss to Harvard isn't out of the realm of possibility.

    OSU was much better than CU last year and returns everybody.

    Baylor as discussed above has a top 15 recruiting class and even though CU beat them last year and they missed the tournament they may have been the better team. Plus CU doesn't have an off-season trip to Europe to fall back on this year. I don't think we appreciate how well Charleston went last year b/c of the trip to Europe.

    Kansas - Andrew Wiggins

    Dinwiddie in all likelihood is a first rounder, but as of today Chad Ford doesn't have him projected there. #38 currently.

    While XJ and Scott may be future pros, let's not forget OSU, Baylor and Kansas have future pro's as well.

    I've love to say that 10-3 is the "worst" CU will do in OOC, but my reality glasses say otherwise.
     
  10. FLounder

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    I am such a stupid sunshine pumper for basketball. I think we go 11-2.
     
  12. CVilleBuff

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    The team isn't going to overlook Harvard. Harvard has gotten a lot of publicity and everyone knows they're a solid opponent. Plus, I highly doubt Tad's forgotten what happened his first year here when they took us out behind the woodshed in Cambridge. If they beat us, it's because they just beat us.

    For the love of god, just beat Wyoming.

    I'd advise being careful against Arkansas State and Elon. They're both a hell of a lot better than Texas Southern. A Sun-Belt team like Arkansas State can often surprise you with some size or athleticism. Elon is quite used to facing ACC competition every year.

    Very glad we aren't going to Athens this year and get them in Boulder. That's a cross country trip that simply would have been over the top with Baylor and Okie Lite on neutral sites.

    It's always treading dangerously visiting AFA and CSU in the same season, but this is a year to beat them both. I am actually glad AFA comes before CSU. You don't want CSU being the first true road game (see: Wyoming last year) where you walk into their "game of the year" buzzsaw environment that you aren't prepared for.
     
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    **** all of y'all. 13-0. CU is for real and the nation will soon know it.









    seriously though 11-2 is probably a realistic mark
     
  14. BuffTE41

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    -OSU. Comparing schedules with CU last year and quality wins vs bad losses I think the resumes are remarkably similar.

    -Our home losses last year can be chalked up to the fact that we had a 6 man rotation of reliable players and no depth. The athleticism of our freshman and dudes coming off their redshirts is the best in CU history.

    -I watched Baylor all of last season, they were horrible. They're undoubtedly going to be good this year, but I think we have the chance to jump them. I know our freshman players, they are going to be very, very, very good. Especially Thomas. I see CU having the advantage of surprise in that match up.

    -Does Andrew Wiggins play all 5 positions on the floor at once? Has he ever played at altitude in the Keg? Shabazz Muhammed was supposed to be a "once in a lifetime player" and he was very underwhelming.

    As far as CU players and the draft. Who knows? But I do know that OSU, Baylor and Kansas are not the only teams getting better. CU is good enough to beat anyone on the schedule, especially at home.
     
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  15. BehindEnemyLines

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    The sked is heavy on the home-cookin'. Only 2 true away games; at a rebuilding csewe team where the environment will definitely be hostile, and away against the Cadets and their uber-disciplined schemes. Kinda wish the team had one more tough away game to help prepare the youngsters for our conference away games.
     
  16. CVilleBuff

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    I'm honestly glad we don't. I think it would be overkill if say, Georgia was on the road. It's just a brutal OOC this year as I see it, but it's what you've got to do. You're better off with a brutal schedule and 2-3 less wins than you are with the padded record with no quality. Baylor in Dallas and Okie Lite in Vegas, though not true road games, will serve to get us prepared. CSU will be rocking as always, and AFA's environment is no different than many of the lifeless Pac-12 arenas out there (and there are plenty of those). I'm quite thankful we aren't taking a cross-country to Athens or heading up to Laramie.
     
  17. rolandftw

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    1. Baylor: Win. Baylor is immensely talented, with possible 1st round picks in Cory Jefferson and Isaiah Austin. Also have a couple top 100 kids coming in. But in the end of the day, Scott Drew is still their coach, and I have full confidence, he will very much assist in a Baylor loss

    2-6. Tennessee Martin/Wyoming/Jackson State/Arkansas State/St Barbara: Wins. These better all be wins, as we can't afford to lose home games to any of these opponents. It's high time for us to give Wyoming a little payback.

    7. Harvard: Win. Harvard returns their top 3 scorers from last year and is expected to go on a sweet 16 type run. But Boyle and CU will be very prepared and ready for this game.

    8-9. Air Force/Colorado State: Win one/Lose one. Nothing in the OOC screams trap game more then these two games. They are both sandwiched between the Hartford and KU games. Hopefully, we're coming off of a big win over a very talented Hartford team but playing off of the emotional high was a challenge for last year's team. Against CSU, I hope we are not looking ahead to what should be an electric atmosphere against KU.

    10. Kansas: Loss. Measuring stick game for CU. Lot of young talent for them with Selden, Emblid and Wiggins. We need Dinwiddie to have a great game to pick up a win (imagine Self has a similar gameplan to last year, where they make things as uncomfortable as possible for Dinwiddie and force other players to step up), as it is the one area where CU has a sizable edge.

    11. Oklahoma State: Win. CU has performed very well in neutral court OOC games recently, and wouldn't be surprised to see this continue. Marcus Smart vs Spencer Dinwiddie should be the best PG matchup for CU of the year. Buffs should have a huge contingent in Vegas

    12-13. Georgia/Elon: Wins. See games 2-6.

    So 11-2, which is a bit of a homer prediction, but I do think the team is capable. I do think anything more then 3 OOC conference would be disappointing, and we would likely need a very solid conference record to get into the tourney.
     
  18. Quattro

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    Yeah I don't see any real possibility where we lose to either Air Force or CSU, both teams are going to be bad. Lyons was AF's whole team and he's gone and looking at their roster, they don't have much coming back in terms of production, same with CSU.
     
  19. CVilleBuff

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    They're both going to be down, neither will be atrocious. Eustachy in particular will have CSU competitive, especially at home. It's the game of the season for both teams. Pretty clear to see what's gone on in recent visits to CSU, AFA and Wyoming (added because it's the same type of situation in years we go up there) where losing or very close wins are the norm. I do think we win at AFA and that we might be able to pull away in the second half, but they're going to bring their highly disciplined/motivated game to the table. Expecting to walk all over CSU in Fort Collins would be a mistake. It likely will be a close one. Yes, we're more talented. But raucous environments and "game of the year" atmosphere narrows talent margins quite a bit. On paper we win, but by no means a "shocker" if we lose at CSU.
     
  20. jgisland

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    delusion is abound

    At the end of last year if CU played Baylor on a neutral court, Okie St. on a neutral court and Kansas at home, CU's probability of winning all 3 games would have been 5.3%.
     
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    CU fans are traumatized by the last decade of football and basketball since pretty much forever and don't want to admit that we have a great team because of fear of getting burned. I understand the sentiment, but...

    It's ok to let our guards down this time, this team is for real. You will see.
     
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    Other then one person (and very much sarcastically), who has made the prediction of CU beating all 3 of those teams? Saying CU can play with any team on their schedule is not the same thing as saying they will win every game on the schedule.

    I do agree that the odds are not great that we beat all 3, but on the flip side the odds are not great that we lose to all 3 either. We should be comparable to Baylor talent wise but with better coaching. Worse then OSU but again with better coaching. And yeah, Ku's Ku.
     
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    Baylor is a glorified road game for us......I'm sure we'll travel well, but I'd guess that building will be at least 60-40 green/gold vs black and gold....if not more.
     
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    ^^This. Looking over tad's W/L from his coaching career - he has yet to beat wyoming. Lets make this the year. Maybe XT will have another great effort and put us over the top. Wyoming is down this year, losing washington inside, and if I remember correctly, their wing (martinez) is in court today or sometime this week looking at 10 years. They didnt have many underclassmen last year, and I think that they will be down and should be a win. Again, a loss to them wont be awful because they're in the mountain west, but it will be damaging.

    1) November 8th - Baylor (Dallas) - Win. I dont know about you guys, but I'm pretty sure that spencer & ski remember baylor as the team that took away their trip to the sweet 16 on the back of that damn Canadian that hasnt shot that well since.
    2) November 10th - Tennessee-Martin (Home) - Win.
    3) November 13th - Wyoming (Home) - Win
    4) November 16th - Jackson State (Home) - Win
    5) November 18th - Arkansas State (Home) - Win
    6) November 21st - Santa Barbara (Home) - Win

    As mentioned earlier, games 2-6 are games we simply cant lose. if we do drop one (Or god forbid, more than one), it's going to come back to haunt us in February.

    7) November 24th - Harvard (Home) - Win - I think we will be ready for this game.
    8) November 30th - Air Force (Away) - Win
    9) December 3rd - Colorado State (Away) - Toss. Coach E will have this team ready, and depending on how the rest of the MWC fares (UNM, SDSU, Boise and UNLV) This could be the game of the season for them, as many have already mentioned. This game is a trap game, with everyone wanting to look ahead to kansas and most likely seething for revenge after last years embarrassment.
    10) December 7th - Kansas (Home) - Toss.
    11) December 13th - Elon (Home) - Win
    12) December 21st - Oklahoma State (Las Vegas) - Loss - While last year the mayor held his own against some of the better point guards in the country, this is going to be a battle. Turning the MGM into coors west wouldnt hurt our chances, to be sure.
    13) December 28th - Georgia (Home) - Win.

    I think that 9-3 or 10-2 are probably the most likely options to start out the season and head into conf play. One thing to note - if we go undefeated through kansas, I could see a ranking in the teens for the week beginning after the KU game.
     
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    1) November 8th - Baylor (Dallas) - Loss
    2) November 10th - Tennessee-Martin (Home) - WIN
    3) November 13th - Wyoming (Home) - WIN
    4) November 16th - Jackson State (Home) - WIN
    5) November 18th - Arkansas State (Home) - WIN
    6) November 21st - Santa Barbara (Home) - WIN
    7) November 24th - Harvard (Home) - WIN
    8) November 30th - Air Force (Away) - Loss
    9) December 3rd - Colorado State (Away) - Loss
    10) December 7th - Kansas (Home) - Loss
    11) December 13th - Elon (Home) - WIN
    12) December 21st - Oklahoma State (Las Vegas) - Loss
    13) December 28th - Georgia (Home) - WIN
     
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    1) November 8th - Baylor (Dallas) - WIN (I honestly think there is no way our guards let us lose this one)
    2) November 10th - Tennessee-Martin (Home) - WIN
    3) November 13th - Wyoming (Home) - WIN
    4) November 16th - Jackson State (Home) - WIN
    5) November 18th - Arkansas State (Home) - WIN
    6) November 21st - Santa Barbara (Home) - WIN
    7) November 24th - Harvard (Home) - WIN
    8) November 30th - Air Force (Away) - WIN
    9) December 3rd - Colorado State (Away) - WIN
    10) December 7th - Kansas (Home) - Loss (L for now, but I am reserving the right to change my mind after seeing how they handle Baylor, Harvard, and CSU)
    11) December 13th - Elon (Home) - WIN
    12) December 21st - Oklahoma State (Las Vegas) - Loss (Smart is good. I dont think The Mayor is quite at the same level. OSU should win the Big-12 this year)
    13) December 28th - Georgia (Home) - WIN
     
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    A top 20 team coached by Tad Boyle losing to both AF and CSU both of which are rebuilding? No.
     
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    I think we will go 10-3. We will beat 1 or 2 out of the 3 teams from OSU, Baylor and Kansas (hopefully all though!!!), and I think we slip up at home against Harvard and lose at CSU. Air Force replaces their whole team, and it takes awhile to run that system. We haven't won at CSU in awhile, but they are in a rebuild mode, so it is good we get them earlier.

    I hope I am wrong because we finally have depth for the first time in BOyle's tenure, and each player is very talented and athletic except Stalzer.

    Kansas will be the most talented team, but we get them at home, so we will play extremely hard, and our team usually gets up for big/revenge games (Arizona/Oregon/Stanford last year), Arizona/Cal two years ago, Texas/Missouri three years ago, etc.

    Okie State will be tough with their guards, but if we can contain Marcus Smart with Dinwiddie, I like our chances very much. Toss-up.

    Baylor has a solid front court, but we finally have some muscle in teh paint with Gordon against Jefferson, so I think that will help Scott the most going against another finesse player Isiah Austin. Toss-up.

    Harvard is a solid all-around team, but again, we get them at home, so that's a huge advantage for us from a sea-level team.
     
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    I don't get this losing to Harvard idea. Yes they are a good team, but so are we, and we have a big home court advantage. If it was a road game I'd say it's a probable loss but not at home.

    And I just don't get the CSU loss prediction, at all.
     
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    A team that has struggled on the road consistently and has a huge game right before and right after those two teams? While overlooking those teams that are viewing the upcoming game as their "Super Bowl"? It's not inconcievable that we lose them both. I don't think it happens, but it's not out of the question.

    Put me down as 9-4 with anywhere from 8-5 to 11-2 being possible.
     

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