That really is a terrible idea. You should get sent to federal "pound me in the ***" prison for that idea. :lol:
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Are you a fan of CU joining the Pac-10?
- Thread starter Mr. Babar
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That really is a terrible idea. You should get sent to federal "pound me in the ***" prison for that idea. :lol:
:lol: That was little harsh. :lol:
get a little historical knowledge and then get back to us.
Yeah we'd travel terribly in the Pac-10 no one would show up for games at Stanford, Cal, UCLA, USC, 'Zona, and ASU. There's no alumni or donation base in CA, AZ, and Washington; and we most certainly do fit with or resemble those schools from a culture, size, and acedemics stand point.
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It's nothing more than a pipe dream until CU institutes at least 10 more varsity sports. Once CU has varsity teams in Baseball, Softball, Women's gymnastics, mens and womens swimming and diving, wrestling, men's soccer, men's & womens lacrosse and water polo, we can have this discussion in earnest. So, are all you well heeled Cali alumni willing to step up to the plate and fund an endowment that will finance the costs associated with these programs?
They get money from me, they'd get more but my taxes are going up becuase I have "issues and ****ed up priorities."
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OK, so next time you're getting ready to write the check to the athletic department, make sure to specify that the funds are to be directed towards the endowment.
OK, so next time you're getting ready to write the check to the athletic department, make sure to specify that the funds are to be directed towards the endowment.
I do but as you know a charitable gift in the order of say 5K affects my pocketbook differently than having to pay 5K more in taxes. Hell if I could come close to a 100% offset of the obama tax increase by giving that money to CU I would right now.
I understand your position and I agree. So it looks like CU won't be in the Pac-10 for a long, long time, if ever.
After reading this entire thread, my opinion has changed 180°. I say CU should join the Pac10.
The school and it's program does fit well with those schools and their athletic programs.
Not that it matters a heck of alot to anyone around here, but the team to then include into the B-12 from my point of view, would have to be Iowa or Arkansas.
Interesting thread, good discussion going on here!:drink2:
The school and it's program does fit well with those schools and their athletic programs.
Not that it matters a heck of alot to anyone around here, but the team to then include into the B-12 from my point of view, would have to be Iowa or Arkansas.
Interesting thread, good discussion going on here!:drink2:
BTW... the men's club water polo team is headed back to the national championship tourney this year. They practice in a 20yd pool (regulation is 30 meters). If CU had a reasonable facility they wouldn't compete with the likes of USC, Stanford, UCLA, etc., but they'd beat most of the east coast teams and do well against the lower tiered cali teams. And the women's side is probably more open.
During my time on the team we came in 2nd,a 3rd, and 4th nationally. The talent is there, the facilities are not.
I don't see why swimming and diving couldn't be competitive in the big 12, or anywhere else for that matter, either. It's the facilities. They are truly piss poor.
It seems like a pipe dream, but at some point CU will have to do something about the crappy rec-center pool. I hope they do it right.
RalphieMalph
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****ing unpatriotic alums... :lol:
The facilities are more than adequate for a student rec center. In fact, they're probably first rate as far as that goes. But for an NCAA varsity competition, they're completely inadequate. The competition pool needs to be 50 yards, not 25.
The Claire Gym, just to the North, could be demolished, with the space used to increase the size of the swimming venues. It would cost a boat-load of money, though. Plus it's the student union that operates the Rec Center, so it would have to remain available to the students to use pretty much whenever they wanted to.
RalphieMalph
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Is there a claire gym and a claire classroom building? Because I've never heard of the former, but I definitely had a few classes in the latter.
Clare has a tiny pool in its basement but it's a classroom building housing the integrative physiology department. They might mind you demolishing their building for a new pool.
Would CU necessarily have to join EVERY varsity sport in the Pac-10? The Big East has a ton of teams in basketball and just a handful for football. I agree that the Pac-10 schools are superior in most of the subsidiary sports, but would that necessarily be a pre-req?
I've seen quite a few rec center pools around the country and CU's is pretty piss poor. It is cool that you can climb up in the rafters and jump into the dive tank if you know the right people though.
That tiny pool is where my high school team practiced and had it's meets. There's a full length gymnasium above the pool (or at least there was, at one time). The classrooms wouldn't have to be demolished, just the pool & gym. The department of integrative physiology (whatever the hell that is), could move to Carlson. That pool sucks anyway. It's cold, dark, and there aren't any locker facilities nearby. You have to dress in the Rec center and walk past the nice beautiful rec pool and go through a tunnel to get to the Claire pool. Ahhhh, memories.
The alternative would be to leave the Claire Gym/pool in place, and expand the current rec center facilities to the West and South. This wouldn't be the best use of area, but would certainly cost less.
The quick answer to your question is "no", but in reality, the answer is "yes". If you're the Pac-10, why would you let in a school that doesn't compete in the vast majority of the sports that your conference recognizes? The Pac-10 consideres itself an elite athletic conference (and rightfully so). It isn't interested in schools that can't field teams in the majority of sports.
You could be right. I haven't seen any other facilities. I know that the Rec Center pool was put in about 30 years ago, and there haven't been a lot of upgrades since then, so it's probably time. I always considered the CU rec center to be pretty great. It blows the doors off of any public rec center I've ever been to, but it might not hold up so well when compared to other big schools.
87toInfinity
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I think the only other University rec I have been to was ASU's and it was awesome. Large gym with great pick-up games, huge indoor and outdoor pools and giant weight room. I didn't check out other parts of it though.
For what its worth Stanford's SUCKS and it gets closed frequently so the athletic teams can use it to train which means the student only have access at certain hours.
Off the top of my head, I've been to Cal, USC, UCI, Texas, Texas A&M, University of Florida, Williams College, Miami of Ohio, Ohio State, University of Arizona, Arizona State, Carthage College, Cal Poly SLO, Northern Arizona Uni, Florida State, and Davis all of which had better rec centers and pools than CU.
Colorado College is pretty crap tho.
LincolnBuff
Active Member
**** no!
I would rather fly to most of those games and visit friends on the coast than drive 8+ hours to all the Big XII games. Other than that, Pac 10 better get a new TV package.
Pretty convincing argument, but not quite enough to sway my opinion. :lol:
I renew my argument now that the season is over... it'd be cool to see happen! :thumbsup: