Yeah. If he'd known he was going to live that long, he'd have taken better care of himself. Bobby Layne was notorious for showing up with booze on his breath.And Mickey Mantle had a HOF career. Would have been better if he had taken better care of his body and mind.
I don't think drinking the night before the game is the issue. I don't think anyone is saying that. It's when it leads to police getting involved that is the issue. It would also be an issue if it effected job performance.I respect RG, a lot! I believe he is the best thing to happen with CU athletics in 20+ years. However, if this is true that drinking the night before (not the day or night of) is an issue, then that would mean there is a no drinking policy within a certain time frame of a game? Would RG be subjected to that policy as well, at let's say the parking lot of Levi's Stadium, in front of fans/faithful prior to the Pac 12 Championship game? I would think this has more to do with the abuse of a woman than drinking the day before a game...
I don't think drinking the night before the game is the issue. I don't think anyone is saying that. It's when it leads to police getting involved that is the issue. It would also be an issue if it effected job performance.
Well it does have everything to do with abuse of a woman, but they are making a secondary point above about the drinking.I respect RG, a lot! I believe he is the best thing to happen with CU athletics in 20+ years. However, if this is true that drinking the night before (not the day or night of) is an issue, then that would mean there is a no drinking policy within a certain time frame of a game? Would RG be subjected to that policy as well, at let's say the parking lot of Levi's Stadium, in front of fans/faithful prior to the Pac 12 Championship game? I would think this has more to do with the abuse of a woman than drinking the day before a game...
Well it does have everything to do with abuse of a woman, but they are making a secondary point above about the drinking.
Rick George can get sauced, before, during and after the game for all I care.
I'd expect our players to not get hammered for a few days before the game. After the game, I really don't care, as long as they stay out of trouble.
Yes - and I edited my post because when I said players, I meant that to apply to coaches. Be your best on gameday, lay off getting hammered!Yep.
But if RG got sauced the night before he's supposed to present his budget proposal to Bruce, Phil and the Regents, then I would worry that the guy has a drinking problem. Just as I worry about any coach who decides to tie one on the night before a game.
He wouldn't be the only one.He must have had a jim morrison night out before the bowl game.
You can't be serious?! There is plenty of evidence showing he bit her, hit her, dragged her by her hair, threw her around. This is a pattern over nearly two years.Tumpkin may be in a very bad position. Over the past year or two, nationwide, any choking is often seen as the basis for felony charges, so he may have that.
Also, everybody loves the judge or da who shows he is tough on DV and will real punish a defendant harshly.
Fact is, in most places, a minor 1st time DV assault results in treatment and no jail. The 'tough guy' attitude that all DV perps should lose their jobs and have their live's ruined is dumb.
You can't be serious?! There is plenty of evidence showing he bit her, hit her, dragged her by her hair, threw her around. This is a pattern over nearly two years.
Tumpkin is lucky if this isn't a felony. Should the women stay quiet? Maybe Joe should have realized she was trying to get him help and she shouldn't come visit him again because his immense anger and passion spilled out in a very wrong way.
You bet your ass he should have lost his job at CU. this isn't the Baylor rug.
I wish Joe luck getting his **** together and getting work as a coach again but this needed to be spoken out on. And this action was right. There is no excuse for abusing a person, let alone someone you love or care for. Pull your head out of your ass cu2x.
Sounds like a ****bailer fan's reasoning to me.Tumpkin may be in a very bad position. Over the past year or two, nationwide, any choking is often seen as the basis for felony charges, so he may have that.
Also, everybody loves the judge or da who shows he is tough on DV and will real punish a defendant harshly.
Fact is, in most places, a minor 1st time DV assault results in treatment and no jail. The 'tough guy' attitude that all DV perps should lose their jobs and have their live's ruined is dumb.
Yup, we should just dispense with trials altogether and go with the allegations...I mean they are always true.The fact that some people are defending Tumpkin by saying "I don't know what happened" or "let the case play out" is pretty damn scummy. The dude hit a woman on numerous occasions and will be charged for this and its not very hard to read about the details of what he did to his ex gf.
His contract was almost up, they could have fired him or just let it expire.Was this a situation where they gave him the opportunity to resign and, if not, they would've fired his ass anyway? Sure as hell seems that way.
The fact that some people are defending Tumpkin by saying "I don't know what happened" or "let the case play out" is pretty damn scummy. The dude hit a woman on numerous occasions and will be charged for this and its not very hard to read about the details of what he did to his ex gf.
Yup, we should just dispense with trials altogether and go with the allegations...I mean they are always true.
Personally, I am glad Tumpkin is gone, from an employment viewpoint, the fact some are ready to hang the guy without a trial is ridiculous from a criminal standpoint.
Constitutional rights seem a little iffy right now...He will have his constitutionally guaranteed opportunity to defend himself in a court of law and will have the right to qualified counsel for his defense. In that court of law the standard will be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
If it comes out in court that this entire thing is a fabrication, that he is in fact innocent of what he has been charged with, then I will accept that and consider him as such.
Unfortunately the university doesn't have the time or luxury to wait for that court decision. He is a highly paid employee in a very public position. Had the evidence in his favor been that clear I am certain that his attorney would have told him not to resign but rather to insist on completing his contract.
I know it doesn't fit the mentality of the defense attorney but based on what we have seen so far the university had no choice but to remove him from employment. To not do so puts us in the same group as Baylor, or Miami, or Nebraska, or those other schools that are willing to sacrifice innocent individuals for wins.
Because he did it. He knows the evidence is damning.Why did he waive his right to defend himself against the TSO letting it become a PSO?
Over the past year or two, nationwide, any choking is often seen as the basis for felony charges
So glad his girlfriend found the strength to get herself out of this relationship and then took action.