I think a lot of people here pegged him for exactly as bad as he is when he was hired.
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Have I been too fair to Karl Dorrell?
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Your first mistake is assuming RG has any authority here in the first place. His balls are in a jar on PD’s desk.
Longtime listener, first time caller:
No.
No.
i wasn't expecting coaching greatness out there last night but i didn't expect the coaching to be nearly as bad as what we just saw.
with our difference makers all transferred to other schools, there was only so much we could hope for. the job the staff did last night didn't cross a minimum bar of competence.
if there was any doubt that firing kd is on the horizon, that debate is now over. it is just a matter of timing at this point. given how the deals are structured, i expect the CUAD to dig us into an even deeper hole long before any changes are made.
with our difference makers all transferred to other schools, there was only so much we could hope for. the job the staff did last night didn't cross a minimum bar of competence.
if there was any doubt that firing kd is on the horizon, that debate is now over. it is just a matter of timing at this point. given how the deals are structured, i expect the CUAD to dig us into an even deeper hole long before any changes are made.
The only group that looked like it might be getting decent coaching is th OLine. I thought they protected pretty well. And yes I know improvements to that unit isn't a high bar to clear.
No, you were too nice about it.
No
People who still cling to the tired "The Pride and tradition of the Colorado Buffaloes will not be entrusted to the timid and the weak" adage are deluded... if the Pride and tradition hadn't been entrusted to the timid and the weak....THEN WHAT THE **** HAVE WE BEEN WATCHING THE LAST 15-20 YEARS
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bull****. This contract could be eaten without a second thought if the school wanted it bad enough. the CU foundation has over a billion dollars. It’s a matter of will, not funding. The idea that CU is broke is comical.
Done.
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There's nothing wrong with pointing to the history of the program. I think that adage shows we're looking at the wrong part of it, though. Another Bill McCartney isn't walking through that door, and RG thought he had that when we hired Tucker. Even with the playoff expansion......what are the odds of getting like the Pac 10 runner-up into the CFP? Not high. Assuming the administration decides they want a successful football program.....we've gotta start by getting back to bowls regularly. There is zero reason why that should be an issue.
Seriously. Asking for a program to get 6-7 wins per year is not unreasonable.
Our ceiling at the start of the season was 3-4 wins. What is it now? Two ? That's being optimistic after what we witnessed on Friday night.
If they use foundation money to bail out the AD then I’m done with the university. That’s not part of the foundation mission or vision and pouring money into this abyss is folly
This program was well on that path before RG hired KD
He panicked. He should’ve taken his time and if unable to find the right guy he should’ve appointed an interim and waited.
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Stanford, Duke, Vandy, USC, Wake Forest, Michigan, Miami, Northwestern etc all unanimously disagree with you.
This is a bit revisionist. When Dorrell was hired, COVID was not yet the threat it became soon after.
Fair point. I’d still argue that given the horrible timing of Tuckers departure, a one year interim tap to Chiaverini or one of the other coaches would’ve been the prudent move
Hell, Barnett and Cabral were both already in the building and I bet even a half hearted recruitment for a one year interim would have worked.
If COVID had hit a couple weeks earlier, that would have been the ONLY move.
I could have accepted Kapilovic. No way in hell should Chev have been considered for the job. I could have even accepted Hagan as an interim for the 2020 season while we figured some things out.
A perfect way to defuse the Chiaverini issue would have been to let him sink in Fall 2020. Instead they let it fester into the 2021 offense and the offensive hangover of 2022.
Most of those are private institutions, so it’s not a meaningful comparison. I have no idea how their foundations are set up but it’s kind of irrelevant wrt the cu foundation. People who donate to the foundation have an expectation for how the money is used and you put future donations at risk if you raid it to bail out the ad.
https://247sports.com/Season/2022-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/
I didn't know this particular thing existed, but I find it highly unlikely that we're recruiting just fine based on our placement on this list. Granted we've had 3 coaching changes in 3 years, but this is downright pathetic. We gotta be in the 30s or at least 40s on a list like this. We can't be hanging out with Duke and Vandy and 11th in the P12
I didn't know this particular thing existed, but I find it highly unlikely that we're recruiting just fine based on our placement on this list. Granted we've had 3 coaching changes in 3 years, but this is downright pathetic. We gotta be in the 30s or at least 40s on a list like this. We can't be hanging out with Duke and Vandy and 11th in the P12
OsideBuff
Dimwitted ****
People hammer Chiaverini..probably accurate. But I get the feeling Dorrell shoved his offense on Chiv and said dont deviate..the offense didnt look much different against TCU..plus .Chiv was stuck with perhaps the worst QB room in the FBS..
He has smartly kept his mouth shut..but I bet he has lots to say..
He has smartly kept his mouth shut..but I bet he has lots to say..