Well to be fair you did go on the link that is referencing Tucker. So you only have yourself to blame.
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Official Michigan State/Mel Tucker Hate Thread
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Probably a way around it but someone posted that Ishbia can’t donate due to owning a professional sports franchise. Is that true?
Hmm. Need some Walton kids to enroll at CU I guess.
What is the Office for Civil Rights case referenced? Is this the Brenda Tracey case, often referred to as the Title IX case.
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The more I hear Coach Prime talk, the more I believe that he appreciates the way he has been welcomed at CU (and he is here, in part, because he respects the way CU and RG have welcomed/hired black head coaches). I don't think Coach Prime is a hypocrite. He has very firmly held beliefs and a core ethic/morality. He also openly admits that he is very much a person who loves being needed.
I just don't see money being the factor for Prime that it was for MT. In fact, building CU into a national brand from (literally) dead worst has a power and cache that he would not get elsewhere.
I'm more and more optimistic with each passing week.
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I think he just loves the colors Gold and Black, everything he has looks so damn on brand
I was talking to a co-worker who asked me how I was feeling toward Mel and MSU. I came up with the word of the day:
Schadenfreude
Schadenfreude
I saw that grad transfers can leave and have immediate eligibility. Not sure on CU’s policy on accepting grad transfers right now though
Separate issue: a love note to those who said "can't fire for cause"
Just did, muthaka.
MSU saying "we are firing you for cause" is the equivalent of:
I do like that gif.
There were a couple ways this could go. One was firing for cause. Another would be where they have a meeting and tell him to walk and come up with a dollar amount agreed upon.
Given that he caused waves with a vendor that could plausibly end with a t9v, I can see why they went this route.
Suing the school is a subsequent move he may entertain. He has made indications that will be his next move.
But to say the school “can’t” fire for cause is just silly. I think most mean that they won’t get away with it. That is another can of worms.
There were a couple ways this could go. One was firing for cause. Another would be where they have a meeting and tell him to walk and come up with a dollar amount agreed upon.
Given that he caused waves with a vendor that could plausibly end with a t9v, I can see why they went this route.
Suing the school is a subsequent move he may entertain. He has made indications that will be his next move.
But to say the school “can’t” fire for cause is just silly. I think most mean that they won’t get away with it. That is another can of worms.
I think your take is silly. Contracts have 2 or more parties. One party is rarely allowed the discretion to say what the terms of the agreement mean--that's what courts are for. It was always obvious that MSU was going to say the firing was "for cause," because any other action made them contractually liable for the $70+ million. Them saying it doesn't make it true. It's exactly the situation Michael Scott was in--he can say that he's declaring bankruptcy, but it means nothing until a court grants him bankruptcy.
I'm pretty sure that MSU and Tugger will settle this case for an 8-figure payout and that the settlement agreement will state that he was not fired for cause. When that happens, I will not return here and post clown gifs--because I understand that it's foolish for someone to ascribe some moral dimension to decisions made by entities like MSU and Tugger.
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Just because you say it doesn’t make it true!!
Yes, but the only path forward to bankruptcy is through a court of law. Whereas MSU is actually allowed to hire and fire without having to ask permission from a court of law first.
I find it interesting that you are trying to compare apples and oranges here.
You may be right about the outcome after a court is made to intervene byway of a lawsuit. However, for every person who thinks that is another who thinks otherwise.
You are really bothered by the clown, huh?
No, I'm not bothered at all. It just seems that you ignore most of what I post. Yes, of course MSU is allowed to hire and fire without having to ask permission from a court. (See my post here) The question was never "can MSU fire Tugger?" It was, "can MSU fire Tugger without paying him for the rest of his contract?" I mean, we fired Karl Dorrell, who certainly never violated any conduct clause.
It's odd that you find it important that MSU (a morally questionable entity) said that Tugger could be fired "for cause." Do you think that this grants some sort of vindication to the complainant? That MSU somehow found in her favor? That's not what's going on here. What MSU did was simply open negotiations on Tugger's buyout by claiming they owe him nothing. Much like almost every criminal defendant in the country who pleads not guilty at arraignments, but then pleads guilty later on. It's nothing more than a legal requirement before a case really begins.
“We attempted to terminate with cause, but settling with Mr. Tucker avoids a difficult court battle and allows all parties to move forward, including Ms. Tracey with whom we have the utmost respect. We look forward to the direction for our football team under Coach [X].” - Michigan State University, probably sometime in the future
Karl Dorrell is now going by Coach [X]?
I guess that makes sense, given his reputation.
Better than coach twitter. For a change.