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Official Michigan State/Mel Tucker Hate Thread
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I am so glad that this problem is for MSU to solve and not CU.
JonSergeantMajor
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I heard a firm was hired to recover their texts…I think a lot of proof, for either side, will be provided when those are recovered.
JonSergeantMajor
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Dude…I just don’t understand how you think me believing that innocent until proven guilty is somehow controversial.
Also, I didn’t know that Boulder was a cesspool, but good to know!
Your words have proven that you are a fundamentally dishonest individual. Congrats on doing that so quickly.
You said you didn’t want to “victim blame” and then you spent 4 paragraphs blaming the victim. Just be upfront about your opinion and stop pretending to be something else. At least be intellectually honest about your position.
JonSergeantMajor
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And your words have proven that you are quick to attack individuals whose opinions differ from yours.
Congrats on being the much superior person…don’t worry the award and recognition that you so desperately seek is in the mail!
JonSergeantMajor
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Ok, if I didn’t say I didn’t want to victim blame and left everything else as is, would that then suddenly have made my post more valid in your eyes?
Why you even bring that up and ignore everything else I said, is very disingenuous on your part!
I don’t want to blame the victim while also acknowledging that there are inconsistencies in her story…can both not happen at the same time!?
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You have no idea.
But if you were expressing yourself honestly I'd have left you alone.
My take from what you’ve written so far is that you have strong feelings about this case and about Ms Tracy, but I don’t think you are being entirely honest about them. Not sure why not.
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That looks like my last (and by that I mean final) attempt at skimboarding.
I actually meant to reply to CU3x
JonSergeantMajor
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No strong feelings at all. I have a ton of women in my family and believe in consent above anything else.
I also know of women who would fabricate almost anything when they feel rejected/jilted. Again, most aren’t like that, but I’ve seen at least a few like that in my lifetime.
I’m sorry/glad, if you’ve never experienced something like that, but it exists!
Show me that there’s any proof besides this being a, “he said, she said” type of thing many months later and I’m throwing Mel to the ****ing sharks ASAP.
Please don’t misconstrue, if Ms. Tracy proves her case, she should be rightfully compensated and Tucker should face jail time for it! No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
All I’m saying is let’s not put the cart before the horse!
No ****, you have women in your family!? What a crazy idea. You've definitely established your credibility now.
Seems like some are miscalculating the role that consent plays here.
Assume there was consent. If it came out that Dorrell, a coach that was already disappointing, masturbated on a phone call with a vendor, and Dorell admitted it, we’d all want his ass fired. He’d be done. No way he can overcome that to lead a winning football program.
The moment it came out that Tucker masturbated on a phone call, he was done. The consent issue, among others, relate to how much Tucker gets paid.
Assume there was consent. If it came out that Dorrell, a coach that was already disappointing, masturbated on a phone call with a vendor, and Dorell admitted it, we’d all want his ass fired. He’d be done. No way he can overcome that to lead a winning football program.
The moment it came out that Tucker masturbated on a phone call, he was done. The consent issue, among others, relate to how much Tucker gets paid.
Just to clarify, Mel Tucker isn’t charged with a crime, or wasn’t the last I looked. This is about the firing and subsequent civil lawsuits.
I'm starting to think that this thread doesn't belong on the football board.
It's too damn difficult to toe the line of balancing "innocent until proven guilty" with "believe women when they come forward" in a way that no one says anything that looks like it violates either of those things.
Then you have people who rush to judgment or who attack the credibility of the accuser. Frankly, it's better a lot of times if we don't have to know those opinions because it makes it damn difficult to bond as fans, which is the entire fvcking reason this board exists.
It's too damn difficult to toe the line of balancing "innocent until proven guilty" with "believe women when they come forward" in a way that no one says anything that looks like it violates either of those things.
Then you have people who rush to judgment or who attack the credibility of the accuser. Frankly, it's better a lot of times if we don't have to know those opinions because it makes it damn difficult to bond as fans, which is the entire fvcking reason this board exists.
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JonSergeantMajor
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Haha I’m trying to have a genuine conversation with you and you just pick out every little thing I say to try to roast me with!? Good job bud! You’re sure owning me!
Congrats, you’re right, I have a ton of amazing women in my family and I, somehow, absolutely hate them!?
Sorry that you feel ignored. I tend to disregard stances that don’t have merit.
Does the idea that Tugger can sue have merit? Sure. He may win, and he may lose.
Does the idea that MSU cannot terminate for cause have merit? Nope. They can. You skipped steps in the process, predicted an outcome and claimed they can’t. Wrong. They do not have to suck their thumbs.
Do I feel allegiance to MSU? Not really. They can go suck an egg. But they still can terminate for cause.
Is it about Tracey? Not entirely. I was outspoken that the victim blaming is crap.
Have you put words in my mouth, above? Sure. But I don’t feel like hee hawing all the live long day, so that is all.
No, you are not having an honest conversation. Between the bull**** openers to try and give yourself the veneer of credibility, putting words in my mouth, and otherwise scumduggery, you've been anything but honest.Haha I’m trying to have a genuine conversation with you and you just pick out every little thing I say to try to roast me with!? Good job bud! You’re sure owning me!
Congrats, you’re right, I have a ton of amazing women in my family and I, somehow, absolutely hate them!?
JonSergeantMajor
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For sure, but also calling her a vendor is mighty generous!
It seems like Mel was the only reason she was any kind of a vendor in the first place.
Additionally, from what it sounds like, Mel deserves to get fired and to lose the rest of his guarantees. However, I believe that we need more proof prior to condemning him to being a sexual predator for the rest of his life, can’t we all agree?
JonSergeantMajor
Well-Known Member
I see you already have your mind made up on what responses are acceptable…it’s kinda sad man!
Keep trying to insult me when I’m not doing the same to you, I’m sure that’s how you change minds and get people on your side.
Don’t have a nosebleed. The chances that any man is held accountable for SA is minimal. The patriarchy and privilege is safe.For sure, but also calling her a vendor is mighty generous!
It seems like Mel was the only reason she was any kind of a vendor in the first place.
Additionally, from what it sounds like, Mel deserves to get fired and to lose the rest of his guarantees. However, I believe that we need more proof prior to condemning him to being a sexual predator for the rest of his life, can’t we all agree?
But get with reality. She was a vendor.