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Other Games Dec. 4th-6th
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Ohio? This year aside
Is Slovis gonna play in the 2H?
Loving this.
The only way that Larry makes the Pac-12 title game between the top 2 ranked teams is if USC has a legit shot to make the playoff & needs to beat a ranked team for its resume. For them to get in that position, Trojans need to roll this week and next.
The only way that Larry makes the Pac-12 title game between the top 2 ranked teams is if USC has a legit shot to make the playoff & needs to beat a ranked team for its resume. For them to get in that position, Trojans need to roll this week and next.
If the league meets the games per team requirement, the P12 will not pit Colorado against U$C in the P12 CG. They are not going to tell UDub or Oregon to pound sand.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
True-but USC has looked off to at least me against both Arizona schools to at least me.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
So our consolation prize if they don't slip up is the Alamo Bowl? That's not bad.
USC has zero chance of making the playoff. But it would still be far better for the league to have 2 undefeated and ranked teams playing against each other in the CCG. In a year like this where the conference is even more off the national radar than usual, why not?
The winner of Oregon and Washington will expect to be in the game.
History of USC is to not play to their talent level on far to many occasions.
If a team can get them frustrated they tend to sink down and lose intensity.
When things go well for them though and they get on a roll they are hard to hang with.
Game like this one they are just having fun. Their receivers know that WSU can't cover them, Slovis knows that his guys are going to be open and catch the ball for him
On the other side of the ball the DBs know that they aren't going to be outrun and the front seven knows they can dominate their one on one match-ups.
WarBuff
Club Member
Would having USC play a very flawed UW or Oregon instead of an (presumably) undefeated Colorado hurt SC? Would the college football world see it as trying to make it as easy as possible for SC to get to the playoffs? This season is so unusual that changing the criteria for a Conference Championship seems to make a better case for changing the championship game to accommodate what may be the two best teams. Again this presumes that SC and CU end the season undefeated.
Whether following the rules helps or harms U$C is irrelevant. The league set up rules for the season and who will play in the P12 Championship Game. Yes, if the league misses the per team game threshold, an undefeated Colorado-U$C matchup would be on the table. But, Washington and Oregon have a lot of money and influence in this conference. The idea of the conference telling them to pound sand outside of the rules is out of the question.
Never let a plan or protocol become more important than achieving the mission. I stress that constantly at work. The mission is to have a team in the playoffs.
WarBuff
Club Member
I agree with you, just looking for a way to make CU-USC game happen. That’s the only way I could see it.
This isn’t your work.
The goal for the P12 is to make powerful constituents happy. Absent the conference falling below the per team game requirement, the conference will not tell the Oregon or Washington winner that they won’t be in the game.
The ONLY way is that teams have to be below on the game per school requirement PLUS CU & U$C would need to be top 12-15 teams.
They're more powerful constituents than USC & CU? The winner's interests outweigh the other 11 programs and their financial interest in seeing a higher rated CCG & potential playoff money?
U$C, Oregon, and Washington have been members of this conference longer than Colorado has. They have more money and more sway. Outside of Colorado, nobody in the P12 gives a rat’s ass if Colorado gets jammed.
If it was the B1G and OSU was undefeated but on the outside of the playoffs, Covid had meant they hadn't played Maryland or Rutgers, and one of them was undefeated & the only other ranked B1G team... I guarantee OSU would not be playing an unranked 2-loss team from the other division.
And that's the difference between the B1G and the Pac12
To start, your scenario is outside of reality. This late in the season, an undefeeated tOSU would not be outside of the playoff picture.
Second, Maryland and Rutgers are not an appropriate analogy. They are not founding members who wield great influence on the conference.
Third, they would match tOSU against whichever sacrificial lamb wins the West and get tOSU into the playoff.
They're outside right now. And MD/Rut are the CU in that hypothetical.
tOSU are not outside of the playoff rankings. That’s a huge distinction. The CFP LLC can still choose tOSU to be in their playoffs regardless of whether or not the B1G puts tOSU in the CCG.
I didn't realize they were ranked above Clemson.
They’re not above Clemson, but were fourth in the last ranking. After beating msu by 40, I don’t expect tOSU to go down.
They're not above Clemson in the CFB rankings