Not sure if want..
CU, UW, Oklahoma, Texas and USC have all won the national championship in the last 20 years. Any other conference with that claim?.
The World-Herald learned Thursday evening of administrative discussion that the Pac-10 may have set a deadline of Sunday for Big 12 teams to accept. The Pac-10 spring meetings begin Friday in San Francisco.
New info from Omaha Website:
http://www.omaha.com/article/20100603/NEWS/306039776#barfknecht-pac-10-about-to-raid-the-big-12
Best possible thing that could happen to CU. KU, KSU, ISU, Baylor will go down the ****ter with BP. NU and MU are already going to the Big 10.![]()
This would instantly make the Pac 10 (16) rival the SEC.
The Texas Tech choice is curious. I'd think Utah would be a better choice.
I don't like that Texas & OU stays around but at the same time it would be better
for Colorado than to be left behind.
I wonder if this isn't a shotgun approach to expansion. Seems pretty haphazard to me. I would tend to think the Pac would have thought this through a little better.
On the other hand, maybe they have and they already know who will accept and who will not.
Gah. I really hate this. This isn't what I wanted at all. I was really hopeful for a Pac 12 with CU and Utah. That was an arrangement that made sense to me.
KU will always have a top flight basketball program, the other sports will suffer. Perkins is having big problems. If KU lets him go, somebody will pick him up instantly.Don't like.
Trying to make lemonade out of lemons, I suppose the additional revenue should help us attract and retain better coaches, pay for better facilities, and bring back several varsity sports. I really, really hope this doesn't blow up in our faces. I have a very, very bad feeling about this.
On the plus side, it will widen the gap between CU and CSU. CSU is going to be left in the dust now. This is going to be really, really bad news for them.
*ebraska and Missouri will undoubtedly go to the Big 10, along with Rutgers (I still don't get this, but whatever), Pitt and ND (probably). The SEC will poach Miami, FSU, Clemson and maybe Georgia Tech and we'll have three super conferences, all of which generate freakish money. There will be, in effect, 48 D-1 schools left.
If I were KU fan, I'd be really, really pissed off. Surprising that such a solid basketball program gets left in the dust so easily.
Honestly..I think we can assume that the Pac-10 knows what is going on..for months all we heard was B10 this..B10 that..and the Pac-10 was quiet..and than BAM huge news. Pac-10 and Scott played things very close to the vest..reading things about Fox Sports about to create a Pac-16 network..(Maybe just more rumors)
Perhaps, but the TT and OSU invites are a real head scratcher. They don't bring any TV sets, and don't bring any athletic prestige, either. It could be that UT demanded TT come along and OU did the same for OSU. Still, all this talk about "academic integrity" just got thrown out the window with these invites. There's so much about this that doesn't make sense to me.
Yeah Buddy, you bet they do.T-boone... they want his money
The top two recruiting grounds in the country (Texas and California) would be squarely within one conference.
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Here's how I'd do it-
Have 4 'pods' or divisions-
USC, UCLA, CAL, Stanford
Washington, Wazzu, OU, Oregon St
Texas, A&M, OU, Okie St
Colorado, Tex Tech (I prefer Utah) , ASU, Zona
Play all 3 every year in your 'pod'
plus play two from each other 'pod' ... one home , one away in a rotating fashion
This would leave 3 OOC games.
Winner of each 'pod' plays for right to Pac 16 Championship Game
highest ranked team hosts lowest ranked ..
example- USC #3, OU #7, Oregon #11, CU #13
USC hosts CU - OU hosts Oregon- winner goes to neutral site for Pac 16 Championship
Here would be an example Colorado schedule-
CSU - Denver
SAN JOSE ST
@ Illinois
UCLA
@ Oregon St
Texas
Arizona
@ Stanford
@ Okie St
Washington
@Asu
TEXAS TECH (or UTAH)
With a schedule like this the Pac 10 teams get their rival game plus each team get exposure in
every region each year-
Hmm, I'd actually put Florida at the top, followed by Texas, then Cali...
There will be, in effect, 48 D-1 schools left.
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Hmm, I'd actually put Florida at the top, followed by Texas, then Cali...
Here's how I'd do it-
Have 4 'pods' or divisions-
USC, UCLA, CAL, Stanford
Washington, Wazzu, OU, Oregon St
Texas, A&M, OU, Okie St
Colorado, Tex Tech (I prefer Utah) , ASU, Zona
Play all 3 every year in your 'pod'
plus play two from each other 'pod' ... one home , one away in a rotating fashion
This would leave 3 OOC games.
Winner of each 'pod' plays for right to Pac 16 Championship Game
highest ranked team hosts lowest ranked ..
example- USC #3, OU #7, Oregon #11, CU #13
USC hosts CU - OU hosts Oregon- winner goes to neutral site for Pac 16 Championship
Here would be an example Colorado schedule-
CSU - Denver
SAN JOSE ST
@ Illinois
UCLA
@ Oregon St
Texas
Arizona
@ Stanford
@ Okie St
Washington
@Asu
TEXAS TECH (or UTAH)
With a schedule like this the Pac 10 teams get their rival game plus each team get exposure in
every region each year-
Link still isn't posted yet, but here's some food for thought for us...
So, if UT is part of this huge defection that takes half of the B12 to the PAC-16, AND as we all know, UT runs the B12, could we possibly use UT's power to our advantage and get the penalty fee for leaving waived? Seems to me you'd definitely have the 6 headed to the PAC vote in favor along with *ebraska and Mizzery - guess there'd just have to be some arm twisting done to one of the remaining 4 and we could maybe get to the PAC for FREE! :slayer::dance:
It won't be much of a surprise if aTm goes to the SEC instead. Utah would then get the invite.
Some of y'all don't get Texas/Oklahoma politics. Let me explain how this went down.
Pac-10: "Texas, we've got Colorado on board and want you to join us to form the Pac-12."
Texas: "Well, that'd be mighty right of ya, but we have some requests. Namely, that you accept Texas A&M, Texas Tech and Oklahoma along with us. They're all rivals and UT won't stand for being out-voted by you left-coast hippies, so we want some safety in numbers. And oh, Oklahoma just told me they want Oklahoma State to come along. So we're all five a block -- I hope you understand."
So, the Pac-10, wanting to get to 12 to get that title game and needing one more after CU to get to 12, decide they want UT so bad they're willing to take the other four teams to get UT and to 16 teams. Ultimately, I think UT really wanted OU to come along, and OU insisted on OSU because the state legislature here would have ensured the pairing not be split.
That's how Tech and OSU got into this.