BuffAlum2007
Well-Known Member
Toledo...
Really wasn't 1 game or moment for me...was more of a culmination of seeing the same boring play calls, the same slow starts, the same lack of progress that doomed us each year.
But I held out hope that he could still change things and turn it around until the CSU then Toledo games last year
I KNEW it at Cal this year. Until then, I thought there was some semblance of hope. So I stayed on the wagon longer than most, I guess.
Montana St. should have been the red flag for all of us, but when did you truly go from "this guy is a bit weird, but I think he can coach" to "this guy is in over his head"?
For me, it was toward the end of the 2008 season when he started flip-flopping QBs for the first time, after burning Hansen's redshirt.
There is in this thread, and many other threads here, a sort of consensus that Hawkins is the sole problem, with regard to the program's w/l record.
Some schools have to dig a bit deeper to right things that have gone wrong over the years, coaching changes being the seeming most obvious to some. I'm wondering if Colorado will have to do that, or even if that realization is at all in the minds of those who have anything to do with these things.
Yeah, probably right about then, when he started dicking around with Hansen, pulling the RS and then benching him again.
I know a lot of folks believe I was a big Hawkins fan. But I was more into trying to stay positive and keep things positive. At the same time, because I always try to be optomistic, I could kind of create arguemnts as to why he hadn't had success and still could turn things around. You know, injuries, youth, etc. But I had a lot of doubts, at the same time. I was hopeful but not convinced. My nexus came during the csu game this year. Going in, I felt like we should just obliterate them. Dominate them. And we didn't. It was at that moment that I knew, beyond any doubt, that Hawkins could not get it done.
I know a lot of folks believe I was a big Hawkins fan. But I was more into trying to stay positive and keep things positive. At the same time, because I always try to be optomistic, I could kind of create arguemnts as to why he hadn't had success and still could turn things around. You know, injuries, youth, etc. But I had a lot of doubts, at the same time. I was hopeful but not convinced. My nexus came during the csu game this year. Going in, I felt like we should just obliterate them. Dominate them. And we didn't. It was at that moment that I knew, beyond any doubt, that Hawkins could not get it done.
Didn´t James Cox start Montana State and didn´t B-Jax only become the starter for the second game against CSU?
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I gave him a pass for 2006 as he really didn´t have much to work with.
2007 was just about what I expected in Year 2, some bumps, but they got to a bowl.
2008, I was disappointed but blamed it on the injuries.
He lost me after one quarter v CSU in 2009.
Hawkins is A problem. (or I should say was). He wasn't the only problem. I don't think there are any posters here who don't recognize that there are other issues that need to be addressed. Facilities, academic support, admissions, etc. all need to be improved. However, you can work on all those things until you're blue in the face but if you still have a raging incompetent running the football program, you won't make any success. Those other things can be dealt with over time, and I believe they are being dealt with. Dealing with those things doesn't get headlines, though.
I know a lot of folks believe I was a big Hawkins fan. But I was more into trying to stay positive and keep things positive. At the same time, because I always try to be optomistic, I could kind of create arguemnts as to why he hadn't had success and still could turn things around. You know, injuries, youth, etc. But I had a lot of doubts, at the same time. I was hopeful but not convinced. My nexus came during the csu game this year. Going in, I felt like we should just obliterate them. Dominate them. And we didn't. It was at that moment that I knew, beyond any doubt, that Hawkins could not get it done.