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'15 WY ATH Tevis Bartlett (Verbal to Washington)

Man... I know he's got legit QB skills, but a 6'4'' 215 freshman who could get up to 225 and play OLB at the Pac-12 level sounds awesome. Boulder is an hour and a half from Cheyenne. You don't want to spend all that money flying back and forth from Eugene and/or Stanford kiddo. Don't do that to your folks. Play in Boulder where they could realistically drive to all your home games! :)

EDIT: Also FWIW his profile pic on twitter appears to show him on defense. It's probably nothing, but he seems to enjoy playing D.
 
skinsfan55 said:
Man... I know he's got legit QB skills, but a 6'4'' 215 freshman who could get up to 225 and play OLB at the Pac-12 level sounds awesome. Boulder is an hour and a half from Cheyenne. You don't want to spend all that money flying back and forth from Eugene and/or Stanford kiddo. Don't do that to your folks. Play in Boulder where they could realistically drive to all your home games! :)

EDIT: Also FWIW his profile pic on twitter appears to show him on defense. It's probably nothing, but he seems to enjoy playing D.
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Sounds like he is leaning towards staying home and none could criticize him for that. But as you said, if he is willing to leave to be part of a bigger conference, CU is a great fit for him because of its proximity to home (since obviously that seems important to him), ability to maybe play earlier, and a more similar atmosphere in the Rockies than going out to the West coast.

He is a wicked athlete, just the kind of guy HCMM likes to recruit. I have no inside info but if he does decide to leave Wyoming I would think we have a good shot at him
 
Gotta say, I'm impressed he's still holding strong on that Wyoming offer.

Pretty sure most kids leave their loyalties at the door when the big boys come calling.
 
The more I read about Tevis the more I like him! I hope he makes the better choice here..


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Just an all around great athlete. When I went to find a better photo for his profile a few minutes ago, I saw a bunch of shots from wrestling (nationally ranked guy) and track & field (discus and hurdles).

He's at the top of my list right now. I respect the love of his home state, but I hope he decides that CU is the best of both worlds. WY and CO are sister states and CU is the only major conference program to represent what Rocky Mountain football is all about.
 
Wrestling might be a big part of Bartlett's decision making process. Keep that in mind. Hope we get him, however.
 
White_Rabbit said:
Gotta say, I'm impressed he's still holding strong on that Wyoming offer.

Pretty sure most kids leave their loyalties at the door when the big boys come calling.
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Somebody's gotta have Wyoming loyalty, and with their new coach, I don't blame him.
 
White_Rabbit said:
Gotta say, I'm impressed he's still holding strong on that Wyoming offer.

Pretty sure most kids leave their loyalties at the door when the big boys come calling.
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I agree. If we had an in-state recruit getting recruited by teams like that, and they stayed loyal to Colorado we'd be pretty excited about it.
 
PAHIBuff said:
Wrestling might be a big part of Bartlett's decision making process. Keep that in mind. Hope we get him, however.
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A 6'4", 210-225 lb. wrestler would get killed in college; leverage and all that. College wrestlers who succeed are almost all OL who are he big heavies, used to playing FB real low. At 6'4" the kid's legs are exposed constantly. Any coach who tries to sell him as 2-sport wrestling type is doing him no favors.

Buffs have good history with WYO kids: OL Dennis Havig from Thermopolis and that lanky QB from Cheyenne....what was his name?

Oh yeah, Bowd Dowler!
 
Buffenuf said:
A 6'4", 210-225 lb. wrestler would get killed in college; leverage and all that. College wrestlers who succeed are almost all OL who are he big heavies, used to playing FB real low. At 6'4" the kid's legs are exposed constantly. Any coach who tries to sell him as 2-sport wrestling type is doing him no favors.

Buffs have good history with WYO kids: OL Dennis Havig from Thermopolis and that lanky QB from Cheyenne....what was his name?

Oh yeah, Bowd Dowler!
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Agreed, due to the weight limits imposed by wrestling it is hard to wrestle and then switch to another sport without a weight limit. The one position it does work for are the top weights where the limits are less meaningful.
 
I don't see him wrestling in college.

I was curious about the weight classes in college D1, so took a look at the NCAA site. It looks like there are 10 weight classes, with 197 lbs the 9th highest. The next weigh limit is 285. That would suggest that to wrestle in college Bartlett would have to get down to 197 after football season. Not gonna happen.
 
Buffnik said:
I don't see him wrestling in college.

I was curious about the weight classes in college D1, so took a look at the NCAA site. It looks like there are 10 weight classes, with 197 lbs the 9th highest. The next weigh limit is 285. That would suggest that to wrestle in college Bartlett would have to get down to 197 after football season. Not gonna happen.
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Even if he could get down to 197 he'd be facing a bunch of 5-10 to 6-1 wrestlers, equally as strong, if not stronger and who'd love a shot at such long legs on a guy who has not had time to condition for wrestling! College wrestling is eight minutes of continuous action, punctuated with two small breaks. FB is ten minutes of intermittent action spread over 3 hours! And, like playing OL, lower center of gravity is better.
 
Colobuffs21 said:
no disrespect to WY, but staying home to play for CO is a little bit different...
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Agreed, also, consider the fact that Boulder is only an hour and a half from Cheyenne. He's probably been a fan of the Cowboys his whole life, and it's cool that he's got some state pride, but CU offers a really good compromise between staying home and chasing the bright lights.
 
Buffenuf said:
A 6'4", 210-225 lb. wrestler would get killed in college; leverage and all that. College wrestlers who succeed are almost all OL who are he big heavies, used to playing FB real low. At 6'4" the kid's legs are exposed constantly. Any coach who tries to sell him as 2-sport wrestling type is doing him no favors.!
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I don't know about all that. Dwayne Johnson wrestled at 6'5'' 260 and he won the WWE championship belt 8 times and the WCW belt twice.
 
skinsfan55 said:
I don't know about all that. Dwayne Johnson wrestled at 6'5'' 260 and he won the WWE championship belt 8 times and the WCW belt twice.
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You are supposed to use the sarcasm font.


Beyond that playing any two varsity sports at the D1 level is tremendously hard. A few guys have done it like Charlie Ward but normally the time required plus the physical toll and the competing demands make it close to impossible.

I do love to see us get recruits who were wrestlers in HS though. To be a quality wrestler you have to have of course solid strength throughout your body, not just weight room strength. You also have to have have good feet, good balance, and fast reactions.

I am also a huge believer, even though I have never seen any studies on it, that because of the combination of strength and flexibility required wrestlers are much less likely to suffer neck and shoulder injuries.
 
Sorry, I'll use the sarcasm font next time.

I agree about wrestling being good for recruits. Not only does it, as you said, help develop practical strength, but I think it helps kids build an attacking mentality. I coached baseball this past spring and we tried to encourage a lot of our kids to wrestle as a fall sport. We want them to develop a little more killer instinct.
 
WizzersGhost said:
Even if he could get down to 197 he'd be facing a bunch of 5-10 to 6-1 wrestlers, equally as strong, if not stronger and who'd love a shot at such long legs on a guy who has not had time to condition for wrestling! College wrestling is eight minutes of continuous action, punctuated with two small breaks. FB is ten minutes of intermittent action spread over 3 hours! And, like playing OL, lower center of gravity is better.
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The fact that he is nationally ranked suggests he has what it takes to be a good college wrestler. Being tall isn't necessarily a detriment in wrestling - it can be used as an advantage. It's more about technique. What makes you think everyone else would be as strong or stronger than Bartlett? Regardless, technique is still more important, IMO. You're right about the conditioning, though.

High school weight classes are friendlier to someone his size, no doubt. In college he'd either have to bulk up a bunch, or drop. Dropping to 197 from a football weight of 215 is common enough (wrestlers torture their bodies), but it would almost certainly take a huge toll.

Not many pull off both sports in college, so here's to hoping he goes with the sport that gives him a chance to make a ton of money if he excels. Hopefully he wants to stay close to home, but in a big boy conference - it seems like we have a decent chance. Marcus what's-his-name, from GJ a decade ago was an incredible wrestler who chose the Buffs (before transferring to Southern Utah or some such), and he got a sniff in the NFL.
 
skinsfan55 said:
Sorry, I'll use the sarcasm font next time.

I agree about wrestling being good for recruits. Not only does it, as you said, help develop practical strength, but I think it helps kids build an attacking mentality. I coached baseball this past spring and we tried to encourage a lot of our kids to wrestle as a fall sport. We want them to develop a little more killer instinct.
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I've noticed in rugby that guys who have wrestling backgrounds are usually the best tacklers. Getting to the ball carrier and make initial contact is one thing, but getting the ball carrier to the ground seems to be what wrestlers excel at.


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