Hoping the "Folsom Frenzy" can do something at the game. Any ideas?
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'15 CA SG Tyler Dorsey (Verbal to Oregon)
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I'm sure they will do it properly. [tweet]513040411435479040[/tweet]
Gotcha. I was just curious because didn't New Mexico do something with Dom or Perkins with a banner or something.
This is what I keep coming back to. He has a chance to stay in the West if he comes here. I don't know how important that is to him, though. I hope it's really, really important. Like, an overriding priority. :nod:
Best thing that we can do (and should do regardless of whether a recruit is there), is call out support to the current players as we see them. It is meaningful to them. And when recruits see that, it makes an impact when they see that the players are recognized and appreciated.
Yeah. [MENTION=854]jgisland[/MENTION] reminded me of that this morning. I think they got smacked on the wrist for it.
I dunno, the list of players in Dorsey's range on Rivals (17-21), that have went to the NBA early (successfully), is very short.
Of the 20 players from 2008-2011, in that range, only Tristan Thompson, Royce White (took 3 years due to the redshirt) and Doron Lamb left early as underclassmen and got drafted.
I could see a scenario where he goes early, even as a Freshman, but don't think it is very likely at all.
BuffG
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The range (17-21) and sample size (08-11) you've chosen are so incredibly small that it's rendered meaningless. Zach LaVine wasn't top 50. Embiid wasn't top 25.
It's not about what you or I think of his 1-and-done chances. It's about what the guy thinks and if a guy is a 5 star, top 20 player then he is thinking NBA ASAP.
Who cares if he's a 1 or 2+ yr player. It's all about getting him here & a lot of that will hinge on how he thinks it affects his NBA chances.
You could look at Recruits in the 11-50 range, and it would still be a very small amount of players that leave as Underclassmen and get drafted. Obviously, his goal is to get to the NBA.
I do think it is an unfortunate part of the college game now, that someone is deemed as a failure or disappointment if they aren't in the rare category of players that are good enough to get to the NBA early.
BehindEnemyLines
beware the habu
Yeah, good question.
One five star isn't enough? :lol: We are basically all in on Dorsey.
BehindEnemyLines
beware the habu
Eggs all in one basket?
There are always contingency plans. But they're irrelevant right now and we hope they stay irrelevant.
BuffG
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You could extrapolate the range to 6-50 & say it's rare to be drafted ever let alone early. Not really going out on a limb there.
Players know NBA puts a premium on youth & it's only natural to have those aspirations when ranked that high. Not a shame, but a blessing to be able to dream that big.
Kansas may be the safe choice, but is it the best choice for a guy that isn't top 5? I don't think so & our best hope is that's also Dorsey's thought process.
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He's at the game.
GoBuffs88
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Certainly looks the part. Rohn swung by and picked him up at halftime and didn't see him or any of the other players after that.
I saw him walking out of the stadium after the game. Looked like he was having a good time.
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He definitely looks the part. Saw him during halftime with Rohn and Rodney.
Needs to tell his parents first.
Buffenuf
massive tool
Another great Slider imitation!
I wouldn't have that approach at all. For starters, it isn't true--Bill Self has developed top kids, 4 stars, unranked kids. He's going to get the best out of you, for sure, at whatever level of college basketball he coaches.
You focus on what Colorado brings to the table. And that is a stacked team when he arrives, that he can be the missing link to. A chance to play against Pac-12 schools, and to show the UCLA's, the Arizona's that they made a mistake. A chance to be on a Top 10 team AND play in the Pac-12, something nobody else going after him, can offer
BuffG
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You quoted my hope on Dorsey's thought process & turned it into my recruiting approach. You're missing the spirit of my point there, which is KU will always reload with top 10-20 players & that's not always the best place for guys in the 15-50 range to showcase their skills (e.g. Wayne Selden). Can't say I agree that Bill Self gets the best out of everyone. Wiggins was nonexistent half of last season. Certainly a top coach though.
I've mentioned all the selling points you have here in prior posts as have others. All of it is great but, it's secondary to whomever Dorsey feels will maximize his NBA stock.