It makes sense since the Pac-12 name has more cachet but it seems irrelevant. The resulting league is going to be relegated to g5 status no matter what name/logo they use. They won’t get a seat at the big kid table.
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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It makes sense since the Pac-12 name has more cachet but it seems irrelevant. The resulting league is going to be relegated to g5 status no matter what name/logo they use. They won’t get a seat at the big kid table.
The Pac12 has been given "Autonomous" status. It maintains that status as long as it exists. That is why the MWC is going to reverse merge. The league also will likely keep it's autobid for as long as it exists.
Bowl tie-ins, etc are all tied to the name.
This.
If the Mountain Pacific Athletic Conference 14 keeps that autobid, those CSU fans will not be quiet about being on the same level as CU even if it is just a technicality.
How lame is the mtn. weenie if the Pac 2, flexing only its Oregon State and Washington St. muscle, can force them under the Pac 2 umbrella.
EDIT: And if that goes down, how Pacific is the conference when only Oregon State and Fresneck are anywhere near the ocean?
EDIT: And if that goes down, how Pacific is the conference when only Oregon State and Fresneck are anywhere near the ocean?
Money.
The Pac2 isn't strong arming anyone. The MWC wants to become the Pac14.
Have you ever seen a prolapsed rectum?
When does Comcast's contract with ESPN/Disney expire? Comcast has been playing hardball with Altitude for years, and it appears the Rockies channel is going out of business now too, likely wasn't getting good enough viewership or payments from cable/Comcast. So it seems Comcast could be as willing to play hardball with ESPN as Spectrum is, but can only do so when the contract is up.
When does ESPN go bankrupt? And all the promised $$$ feeding alignment dry up?
When does ESPN go bankrupt? And all the promised $$$ feeding alignment dry up?
Autobid for bowl tie-ins? The CFP takes the top 6 conference champs. That’s not going to be this new Pac-12
Probably not very long.
They’ll still pay the SEC cause ratings. But probably drop B12, ACC, etc.
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Fractured is the future. That means signing up for multiple services….
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The other side is watching what happened to the Pac12 happen again. Schools made budgets and hired coaches. They committed to things like construction projects bonds for 30 years because they expect the money to keep going up.
Someone WILL end up with less money.
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Probably not very long. They’ll still pay the SEC cause ratings. But probably drop B12, ACC, etc.
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It’s About to Get Incredibly Expensive to Watch Sports
Cable TV was the worst way to follow your favorite team, except for every other way.
The other side is watching what happened to the Pac12 happen again. Schools made budgets and hired coaches. They committed to things like construction projects bonds for 30 years because they expect the money to keep going up.
I hope when the media completely fractures I'll be able to buy a "CU Game Pass" on cubuffs.com that allows me to stream everything and the school & broadcast companies can just split the revenue however they'd agreed.
Most media companies want full rights and something like you describe would be verboten. Unless CU was only able to sell partial rights. In which case you’d still have to subscribe to that service to see the stuff streamed by CU. The media companies I suspect want the right to raise prices which a collective makes difficult.
Anyway. How much are you willing to pay for that? Hundreds? A thousand? How does the school get exposure under that model?
I dont think CU is deep in debt compared to others (Cal) but Im sure they owe something. Does that model get enough people subscribed to cover the debt and operating expenses?
Those are big questions that are hard to answer.
You certainly cant suck for decades on end and expect people to pay. That means the general fund might have to step in. And that also means testing the patience of administrators and regents.
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The cable cash cow is in the chute, waiting for the bolt gun. For decades, sh*theads like Disney and Fox were able to hoover up cash by forcing cable companies to carry their channel on a low tier, thereby making millions of non-sports fans pay for ESPN and millions of non-morons pay for FoxNews. The death of this model seem like it will surely result in less money for sports broadcasting.
It maintains the autonomous status and autobid until the other 4 conferences vote to take it away. Expect them to be relegated to G5 in 2 years when the new playoff is fully defined and voted in and the TV contract is finalized. Guarantee the PAC won't be getting the same BCS payouts once the new contract is done. But hey, at least they'll be at the big boy table for 2 years.
Can anyone give me a link to the "autobid" that everyone keeps referring to? What I see is that the 6 conference champs with the highest ranking are in when it expands to 12 teams. AFAIK, it doesn't seem tied to any particular conference.
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The best thing that I’ve heard is that a conference has to 8 members- but there is a 2 year grace period. There is a very, very funny scenario where OSU and WSU form a two team conference, play an 11 game OOC schedule vs teams against whom they can go undefeated, play the last game of the season against each other as ranked foes, and end up highly enough ranked where they get a bid to the playoff. They’d then split the money between the two of them.
Genius!
Anyone know 100% if the Pac-12 debt stays with the conference or is owed pro rata 1/12 by each of the members who were there when the Pac-12 ripped off the cable company? I had assumed it would be pro rata, but if the folks who left gave up all rights to assets like the PACN production studies, maybe they aren't involved in the debts either.
Maybe you could fund our move to the Big10!
Viva la revolution!
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Right? I couldn't believe he skipped one either.
We all have a type, no?
If you're referring to the CFP, autobids don't go to specific conferences, they go to the six highest ranked conference champs
There was an article some time ago by one of the west coast reporters that said Comcast would recover the funds by withholding distribution payments from this year and last year. But a larger point is that each school is responsible for the debt incurred during their membership.
Makes sense. I wonder where CU is on that Covid year loan that Phil had the AD take from the conference.
The "autonomous" status is valuable.
The bowl tie ins either end when those contracts do (pretty sure the bowl contacts only run 3-5 years, and they're staggered), or, if the bowls had competent lawyers, they end when conference membership dramatically changes.
But, what is this "autobid" you two seem to think exists?
The only autobid is in basketball, for the conference champion, and the MWC already has one of those.
The football playoff, when it expands, currently has "the top 5 ranked conference champions." It does *not* say anything about specific conferences. It's not that SEC, ACC, B1G, B12, P12 champs automatically get in. If the lowest ranked of those is 16, and the AAC champ is 14, the AAC champ gets in.
Again, there is no, and will be no conference "autobid" for football.