My thoughts exactly. Why would he want to leave Utah to come here?
Has anyone here ever mentioned Jim Harbaugh? He would at or near the top of my list.
I don't know why he would come here because it would be just as lateral a move as from Utah. Stanford is in BCS conference. But he is recruiting lights out at a school harder to get into than CU.
Jim Harbaugh will be a big time coach at a big time school someday soon. Maybe Notre Dame? The guy can flat out coach and recruit.
Utah has a lot going for it, too. Other than getting into a BCS conference, there isn't a lot of upside going from Utah to CU right now.
Because CU is a program richer in tradition and in a BCS confrence.
And Utah is a better team and a better program right now.
I know there are reasons coaches should consider CU, but I don't know that it's a step up to go from Utah to CU right now. More of a lateral move, IMO. The BCS ties are really the only advantage CU has at the current time.
Any team in a BCS confrence is a big step from any program not in a bcs. It's a major goal for lots of coaches, it really is a huge factor.
Any team in a BCS confrence is a big step from any program not in a bcs. It's a major goal for lots of coaches, it really is a huge factor.
Because CU is a program richer in tradition and in a BCS confrence.
The next Michigan coach, I think he's a UM alum
Any team in a BCS confrence is a big step from any program not in a bcs. It's a major goal for lots of coaches, it really is a huge factor.
How do you figure? Utah has played in more BCS bowl games than CU has. What would their coach be gaining by coming here?
Leash, I know you love CU and so do I, but reality is reality.
Any team in a BCS confrence is a big step from any program not in a bcs. It's a major goal for lots of coaches, it really is a huge factor.
How do you figure? Utah has played in more BCS bowl games than CU has. What would their coach be gaining by coming here?
Leash, I know you love CU and so do I, but reality is reality.
He just signed an extension last December. The deal has a buy out should Whittingham leave, but I don't know how much it is. Buy outs for head coaches could steer us towards an assistant should we decide to replace Hawk.
Personally, I think they're in it for the money. If they don't get a raise from their old gig then why leave. I see the coaching world as a very small, tight knit community. There are people out there with the poop on CU as to why DH has struggled so much. That poop might be a problem for us.
There was a lot of poop against CU in the early 80's. Soem of you are making this sound a lot harder than it really is, it's not that hard if you get the right guy, and luring the right guy is probably easier than you think. Has to do with a lot of luck. Personally, I think a good assistant from a Florida or Texas type school (Strong, Muschamp), is what we need most to turn this around.
Never. Going. To happen.
1 - Coach Whittingham has a) great facilities, b) tremendous support from the school and boosters, c) fantastic track record.
2 - UCB has some desirable features, most notably conference affiliation. But, facilities?--no. Support from the university?--questionable at best. Support from the boosters?--yes. And the past 8 years have been sub-par. (Coach Barney in the Fiesta Bowl (2001?) ... Coach Talkins winning 2 road games.)
3 - KW may be tempted to leave for an AQ school, but it won't be UCB. Besides, he's got an inside track to make BCS games -- much more so than UCB. Last year Utah took care of business against some very good (some marginally good) teams, and kicked some SEC tail in the SEC's back yard. This year he has a chance to (again) take care of business against some very good (and some marginally good) teams, get 10-11 wins, win a decent bowl game, and continue the recruiting/success that's in place.
4 - Scoff alert: the MWC is on track to meet all requirements for AQ conferences. Based on the shady history of the BCS powers, I am a pessimist about gaining access to the AQ club. However, the requirements have been laid out in the bright light (with some murky shadows), and the MWC is meeting those requirements. Should the MWC become the 7th AQ conference in 2012, why would KW leave UU for UCB?
Never. Going. To happen.
1 - Coach Whittingham has a) great facilities, b) tremendous support from the school and boosters, c) fantastic track record.
2 - UCB has some desirable features, most notably conference affiliation. But, facilities?--no. Support from the university?--questionable at best. Support from the boosters?--yes. And the past 8 years have been sub-par. (Coach Barney in the Fiesta Bowl (2001?) ... Coach Talkins winning 2 road games.)
3 - KW may be tempted to leave for an AQ school, but it won't be UCB. Besides, he's got an inside track to make BCS games -- much more so than UCB. Last year Utah took care of business against some very good (some marginally good) teams, and kicked some SEC tail in the SEC's back yard. This year he has a chance to (again) take care of business against some very good (and some marginally good) teams, get 10-11 wins, win a decent bowl game, and continue the recruiting/success that's in place.
4 - Scoff alert: the MWC is on track to meet all requirements for AQ conferences. Based on the shady history of the BCS powers, I am a pessimist about gaining access to the AQ club. However, the requirements have been laid out in the bright light (with some murky shadows), and the MWC is meeting those requirements. Should the MWC become the 7th AQ conference in 2012, why would KW leave UU for UCB?
You keep dancing around the issue. CU Athletics are not an entity on to themselves. They are a department of a larger organization.
If the player can not qualify and doesn't get in (as scores of Hawkins recruits have not) then it does not matter who we have coaching. For gods sakes another poster pointed out that Cal has lower admission standards then we do. If thats true then the pool of potential impact players just got a lot smaller and so did the coaches willing to come here and accept that short of a leash. I don't pretend to know what the poop is but I suspect there is something there is blocking success and its not just coaching. Im reading between the lines and so far I don't like the story.
The administration at CU appears to have drawn their line in the sand with athletics. How long before they move it remains to be seen.
Never. Going. To happen.
1 - Coach Whittingham has a) great facilities, b) tremendous support from the school and boosters, c) fantastic track record.
2 - UCB has some desirable features, most notably conference affiliation. But, facilities?--no. Support from the university?--questionable at best. Support from the boosters?--yes. And the past 8 years have been sub-par. (Coach Barney in the Fiesta Bowl (2001?) ... Coach Talkins winning 2 road games.)
3 - KW may be tempted to leave for an AQ school, but it won't be UCB. Besides, he's got an inside track to make BCS games -- much more so than UCB. Last year Utah took care of business against some very good (some marginally good) teams, and kicked some SEC tail in the SEC's back yard. This year he has a chance to (again) take care of business against some very good (and some marginally good) teams, get 10-11 wins, win a decent bowl game, and continue the recruiting/success that's in place.
4 - Scoff alert: the MWC is on track to meet all requirements for AQ conferences. Based on the shady history of the BCS powers, I am a pessimist about gaining access to the AQ club. However, the requirements have been laid out in the bright light (with some murky shadows), and the MWC is meeting those requirements. Should the MWC become the 7th AQ conference in 2012, why would KW leave UU for UCB?
Never. Going. To happen.
1 - Coach Whittingham has a) great facilities, b) tremendous support from the school and boosters, c) fantastic track record.
2 - UCB has some desirable features, most notably conference affiliation. But, facilities?--no. Support from the university?--questionable at best. Support from the boosters?--yes. And the past 8 years have been sub-par. (Coach Barney in the Fiesta Bowl (2001?) ... Coach Talkins winning 2 road games.)
3 - KW may be tempted to leave for an AQ school, but it won't be UCB. Besides, he's got an inside track to make BCS games -- much more so than UCB. Last year Utah took care of business against some very good (some marginally good) teams, and kicked some SEC tail in the SEC's back yard. This year he has a chance to (again) take care of business against some very good (and some marginally good) teams, get 10-11 wins, win a decent bowl game, and continue the recruiting/success that's in place.
4 - Scoff alert: the MWC is on track to meet all requirements for AQ conferences. Based on the shady history of the BCS powers, I am a pessimist about gaining access to the AQ club. However, the requirements have been laid out in the bright light (with some murky shadows), and the MWC is meeting those requirements. Should the MWC become the 7th AQ conference in 2012, why would KW leave UU for UCB?
Shouldn't you be worried about your own program?
why would KW leave UU for UCB?
So, is your cousin's friend's friend on the Utah end or the CU end of things?That CU has contacted Univerity of Utah's Kyle Whittingham about replacing Dan Hawkins. Thoughts?
So, is your cousin's friend's friend on the Utah end or the CU end of things?