I hear the ravens were going to until the video got released . .
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Joe Mixon Video Released
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Medford M.
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Obviously I never condone hitting a woman except for in a life/death situation, but could he have even been convicted of anything in that situation?
She had her hand on his throat, and he "defended" himself. For that reason, its not as bad as some of the other situations.
She had her hand on his throat, and he "defended" himself. For that reason, its not as bad as some of the other situations.
That didnt happen. It was put out there by defenders, but it didnt happen. We got the video about 4 cst, it went up on Newsok around 430. Crazy how OU let him play.
This is what has been told to us (media) by a reliable source close to the situation. Mixon and a group were outside, Molitors group walked in, while walking in, Mixon and one of his friends made a derogatory remark to one of Molitors friends who is homosexual. This started an arguement outside between Molitar and Mixon's group. The rest of her group went inside. The video picks up after that and you see what happens. She motions him over to continue the argument. He walks up, continues saying something to the gay friend and Molitor stands up for said friend. Another friend seated that you see later (black male with ufc hat) says "Man n word you wrong" and Mixon starts to walk away, Molitor called him a bitch, Mixon turns around and approaches, she pushes, he bows up, she slaps his neck...down goes Frazier. No spitting. Couple of coworkers saw it two years ago when the NPD showed some in the media. They tried to explain it, but as you can see, its a hard watch. Now you see why the media sued to have this released. No effin way he should have remained on campus. Stoops, Boren, and Castigleone have some explaining to do on their decision. The kid served a redshirt year as punishment...sad situation all around.
Edit, on tablet, sorry for any typos and the wall of text
You don't understand what constitutes self defense.
Thank you for helping to put the video into the proper perspective.
Yep. Doesn't excuse violence, but if I called someone a racial slur and spit on him, it wouldn't surprise me if the next scene was me getting my ass kicked.
Thank you.
That is enlightening. Saw something about Mixon issuing a pretty heartfelt (it seemed) public apology to her once it had been legally settled and he could talk about it. I want to say I read it on ESPN during the season.
DrunkRalphie
Well-Known Member
That's a Ray Rice haymaker.
So I read the thread before I watched the video, and I can't say I saw what some of you guys are seeing.
What I saw was a couple of people talking, it gets heated, and then a guy throws a massive haymaker for no apparent reason at all. He didn't need to "defend" himself at all, and especially not in that violent of a matter.
I would also add to the conversation that the fact that the recipient of that punch is a woman is almost a sidenote. That punch should have been enough to get him an extended, if not permanent, vacation from school no matter who it was thrown at.
What I saw was a couple of people talking, it gets heated, and then a guy throws a massive haymaker for no apparent reason at all. He didn't need to "defend" himself at all, and especially not in that violent of a matter.
I would also add to the conversation that the fact that the recipient of that punch is a woman is almost a sidenote. That punch should have been enough to get him an extended, if not permanent, vacation from school no matter who it was thrown at.
At CU and a lot of other places, there seems to be a zero tolerance policy on violence against women. Mixon would have been gone from a lot of schools. Few schools would have permanently cut ties with him for hitting a guy in that situation, I think. Though the homophobic slurs from him and his group that precipitated it (according to one of the posts above) would probably have made it much more likely for him to be gone regardless of whether he hit a guy or girl.
Good point. I hadn't thought of that angle.
My point was really just speaking to the viciousness of the punch. Considering his status as a highly trained athlete, it shouldn't matter who the recipient of the punch was.
He most definitely should have been gone. Its amazing to me that Boren, Stoops, and Castiglione saw that video and felt that a year suspension which was essentially a redshirt year would suffice. I know people make mistakes, and second chances should happen...but his should have been elsewhere.
don't forget about the dude that kidnapped his girlfriend and threatened to kill her with a screwdriver. Not enough to lose a scholarship offer from OU. Or green-beckam who dragged his girlfriend down 4 flights or stairs. Enough to get the boot from mizzu, but gains you a starting spot at OU.
TheeMacAttack
New Member
3rd hand info, so take it for what it's worth, the girl was at the place with a gay friend. That guy recognized Mixon and said something to him, Mixon told him to shut up and not speak to him and ended it by calling him a ****** or queer or something derogatory. That's when the chick went off and things went really downhill from there.
SuperiorBuff
Well-Known Member
He definitely should have been gone.
Yeah no excuse for what he did. A year wasn't enough imho.
Bliff Cranch
Well-Known Member
Damn good article here.
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/bob-stoops-joe-mixon-video-assault-121616
http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/bob-stoops-joe-mixon-video-assault-121616
And it's even debatable to say he was suspended when he was kept on scholarship. That's just the equivalent of a redshirt season.
Agree with Mixon defending himself. If she didn't put her hands on his throat and yet he struck her like that, I don't think Mixon would have been at OU. The other cases of pro football players striking their spouses didn't have the spouse trying to strangle the pro football player so you couldn't use any defensive claims in that case.
Mixon could have used other ways to get away from that woman but you cannot defend that woman at all for putting her hands on Mixon's throat. I agree that men shouldn't strike women but that ideal shouldn't fly when the woman have her hands on the man's throat. Hands on the throat is an express way to show that you do intend to cause harm to that person. Mixon didn't have to break her jaw but she was asking for it when she put her hands on MIxon's throat no matter what anyone thinks.
Mixon paid the price by being barred from all football activities for one year at OU despite defending himself. Just compare that to what Lawerence Phillips did while at Nebraska which was worse.
Not necessarily. Mixon was barred from all team activities while the typical redshirt season would still mean the player is involved in all team activities.
defending himself? Yea, that's a bunch of bull****.