jpbuff
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I think Hirsch finishes out this year but will transfer next season. With Webb, Wood, Dillon and the incoming freshman I think the writing is on the wall for him.
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Jordan Webb named as starter - Confirmed
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I think Hirsch finishes out this year but will transfer next season. With Webb, Wood, Dillon and the incoming freshman I think the writing is on the wall for him.
Ha, thanks for the heads up. Another aspect to the Wood v. Webb decision might be that this season will go a long way in determining how long Embree stays employed at CU. Wood seems more high risk/high reward while Webb is more steady and consistent but might not dazzle you. Perhaps Embree isn't willing to gamble his future with the Buffs and is choosing to go the safer route. It doesn't mean that one QB is more talented but just a contrast in styles.
So the coaches name a DI starter with 19 games of experience to lead the team and this is a problem?? Really???
Go Jordan and Go Buffs!!!
Go Jordan and Go Buffs!!!
First off - Congratulations Jordan ! coming in to camp/school late, beating out players that have been around the team for two or more seasons, way to go!
2nd - I hope there is not decent-ion in the ranks within the locker room now... All 6 QB's lined up behind Jordan are 1 play away from being the starter. You need to keep pushing, that is what makes everyone on the team better!!
watching his film, he throws a good catch able ball, down side is ku was losing by so much in those games, he was playing against 2nd and 3rd team defenses. But I guess ou, ut, bu, atm, tt second team defenses are better than what we have put on the field lately:huh:
2nd - I hope there is not decent-ion in the ranks within the locker room now... All 6 QB's lined up behind Jordan are 1 play away from being the starter. You need to keep pushing, that is what makes everyone on the team better!!
watching his film, he throws a good catch able ball, down side is ku was losing by so much in those games, he was playing against 2nd and 3rd team defenses. But I guess ou, ut, bu, atm, tt second team defenses are better than what we have put on the field lately:huh:
I watched Embree's interview on the CuBuffs Android app and I am a bit more comfortable now than I was at first.
It is clear from hearing him that Webb was consistently making plays, showed his accuracy even when plays broke down and has a competitive streak to him.
What worries all of us who have expressed concern is that he is short and we have had a lot of short QBs lately that can't measure up-more balls batted down at the line of scrimmage, etc. and his performance at KU was not stellar. Regardless of how bad his teammates were he was really an average, at best QB there.
That is why it is weird that there are so many people on AB that don't understand the pessimism and argue that we haven't seen him play a down at CU-not sure what that doesn't allow us to judge his 19 starts at KU.
Anyway, after watching Embree's video and his summary of some of the plays Webb has made, etc. I am convinced that he gives us the best chance to win now.
And others have said, the honeymoon period is over. This year is when Embree and his staff make or break their future at CU. Get to a bowl or damn close or bust.
It is clear from hearing him that Webb was consistently making plays, showed his accuracy even when plays broke down and has a competitive streak to him.
What worries all of us who have expressed concern is that he is short and we have had a lot of short QBs lately that can't measure up-more balls batted down at the line of scrimmage, etc. and his performance at KU was not stellar. Regardless of how bad his teammates were he was really an average, at best QB there.
That is why it is weird that there are so many people on AB that don't understand the pessimism and argue that we haven't seen him play a down at CU-not sure what that doesn't allow us to judge his 19 starts at KU.
Anyway, after watching Embree's video and his summary of some of the plays Webb has made, etc. I am convinced that he gives us the best chance to win now.
And others have said, the honeymoon period is over. This year is when Embree and his staff make or break their future at CU. Get to a bowl or damn close or bust.
Ozbuff
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It's pretty disappointing to see so many people bag on a QB that hasn't thrown a pass for CU yet. It's equally disappointing that so many expect (maybe even hope) that Embree and his staff will fail. It's way too early to know how good this staff is, particularly as it pertains to recruiting. Anyway, if the O-line plays like it did for much of last year, it probably won't matter who our QB is, we won't be winning many games.
I laugh at assertions like this. Embree wants to win, period. He isn't thinking for a second about his job security at this point....he can find another well paying job elsewhere if this doesn't work out, but he has a deep burning desire for this university, and has higher expectations for this program than anyone on this board.
Webb gives this program the best chance to win as far as the coaches see it. I like this decision a lot, and frankly am not disappointed or surprised in the least by Wood coming in 2nd in this race. He has all of the tools on paper, those measurables is what gives a HS kid a high rating coming out. Big, strong armed kids that can't throw accurately, and stay calm under pressure are a dime a dozen in my opinion. Webb, from listening to comments from coaches, obviously showed poise, and accuracy....things that can't be coached, and things that are imperative to have in a QB1 if you're going to win any games (who gives a **** if he is short). Let's not lose sight of the fact that we are talking about a kid that graduated in 3 1/2 years, and came in here as a sponge to learn this offense well enough in 8 days to take over the starting roll....that's a lot more pressure than people care to recognize, and he was nails.....not to mention he is obviously a smart dude.
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AllStarBuffs
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A D1 starter who went 4-17 at KU, does that number impress you?
I agree with Klatt. Webb is the starter because those first four games are too important to be breaking in a qb with no starting experience.
I am also going to add this: I was of the opinion that we would likely win about 3-4 games this year. My opinion was largely based on the extent of young players that we were depending on this year....while an upgrade in talent, freshman make a lot of mistakes, and mistakes lose you games. With Webb winning this battle, and how quickly he won it, I am for the first time believing that there is a legit shot at us winning 6 games and going to a bowl game. The value of having an experienced leader at QB on a team with so much youth can't be underestimated
Unleash Hell
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I didn't think Webb did all that bad at KU. Bad end to last season, but how much of that was due to KU just throwing it in the tank after a terrible season?
Laugh it up but nobody cares how deep of a burning desire a coach has if they have all of 6 wins combined in his first two years after this season. Results are what keep coaches employed not cliches (Embree wants to win period) and superlatives (deep burning desire). Embree knows this and knows he must show a marked improvement to continue receiving the support of the university and its fans.
**** you....
issed::smile2:
For now I'm going to trust the coaches on this one. We've seen Webb some at KU and he had good moments and bad moments. We haven't seen Wood, most of us don't even have any idea what Wood looks like at this point. But I think some people fell in love with Wood last year simply because they thought that once unwrapped Wood was going to solve all our problems. Basically, a classic case of backup QB syndrome.
I still hope to see Wood get some time, though. There are a lot of things there that are intriguing. I'm curious to see what Wood can do....
Unlike our last coach, at least we don't have to worry about where his head is at with regard to decisions. Embree wants to win the most games possible, and he went with the guy who gives him the best chance. The other guys had better be ready, because we haven't made it through a season with only one QB for a long time (maybe 2007 is the only exception).
I wasn't clear enough. All those aspects go hand in hand (obviously). But Embree isn't thinking about job security when picking a QB...he is thinking about wins. Period.
This is not a popular opinion, I know, but if he wins only 3 games this year, while I will be disappointed, it will not change my opinion of him as coach. This was the worst BCS team I have EVER seen when he came in. This is only his second year.
Unleash Hell
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**** you....
:smile2:
For now I'm going to trust the coaches on this one. We've seen Webb some at KU and he had good moments and bad moments. We haven't seen Wood, most of us don't even have any idea what Wood looks like at this point. But I think some people fell in love with Wood last year simply because they thought that once unwrapped Wood was going to solve all our problems. Basically, a classic case of backup QB syndrome.
I still hope to see Wood get some time, though. There are a lot of things there that are intriguing. I'm curious to see what Wood can do....
Yep, I love how people think they know it all when in fact none of us have seen the practices. If a QB from Texas comes in and has a whole year to learn the offense and loses the job to someone with D1 experience that has only been here a month, I feel pretty good the right decision was made. Hopefully we will get to see both QB's play in the first couple games due to mop up duty.
BehindEnemyLines
beware the habu
Damn you Leash. Beat me to it.
I was thinking that it would be ideal in the first 4 games for the Buffs to be leading, like, 50-7 at the end of the 3rd quarter. Put the backup in and give him some real-time, game-speed, experience.
Will it happen? I dunno, but it would be the best case scenario.
Well, in games he started it was 4-15. Not that much of a difference, but let's at least be accurate about it. KU was, especially last year, hands down one of the very worst D1 teams and arguably the worst BCS team. Webb had a lot of passes thrown on target that were just flat out dropped. IMO, a little persective is in order. I don't think he is a game breaker, but when compared to players who have taken very few game snaps (Hirsch) or none at all (Dillon, Wood), I trust Embo and Rip and EB to make the right call. They must think Webb is the best option. I may not be happy he is the best option, but I don't doubt it.
I repsonded originally that I thought Webb would win the battle due to his game experience. The speed of the game and the fact he has played against some very good competition gave him a leg up in the competition and it appears he built off of that based on how quickly he was named the starter. I also think, like many others, the first 4 and really the first 6 games are critical for this team. Embo is going to lead with experience to get wins in the easiest part of the schedule. I do believe that Webb is not the long term starter but his on field experience gives them the best chance to win early.
I think that was more.. who's this Rodney Stewart we just signed? A return specialist? Ok, whatever :lol:
Then I saw his highlight tape :wow:.
That's not impressive, but it is a team sport and he didn't single-handedly win or lose all those games. And certainly the INTs bother me...but I'm not sure if the INTs came because they were behind and were forced to throw and forced to try to make something happen. IDK.
But I think a kid with all that game experience, plus a great position coach like Rip picking him, does not make this doom and gloom. He'll have to make plays, and if he doesn't, next! Wood will be in there. I expect Webb to be equivalent to Hansen.
IMO if we can't run and our D sucks again, QB will be largely irrelevant.
Don't see it DBT. If anything, Webb in that picture looks like a blond version of Ben Afleck.
What if you trust some of the coaches, but not the rest? Or, what if you are just kind of agnostic about whether or not you trust the coaches?
I'm glad Embree chose a starter this quickly, for how that helps with preparation for the early part of the season. He did the same thing last year in picking a kicker, and we had way better performance at that position than we had seen the previous 2 or 3 years.