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Official 2017 Coaching Carousel Thread - Zona hires Sumlin
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Well we can agree to disagree. DH threw for 1538 yards in 1990 out of a pure triple, so I am not sure, mated to an elite ground game, it would not be elite. The notion you cannot throw the ball effectively simply is not true. You put Tate behind tOSU's OL and run the triple, I really doubt that team would fail to make the CFP.
It is all academic anyway, as I said above, no elite team is ever going back to a run based triple anyway.
Rollie Fingers' love child?
That dude uses some of the products he want's his players taking.
I think it's telling that no one does it. Wisconsin, LSU and Wyoming would seem to be great fits, right, with the way they've built their teams and with what they emphasize. But they know that you can't limit yourself to that extent and be competing for conference championships.
I think we've played out our discussion at this point. All a matter of opinion until an elite program tries it.
Smoking his own........stache?
I think it's telling that no one does it. Wisconsin, LSU and Wyoming would seem to be great fits, right, with the way they've built their teams and with what they emphasize. But they know that you can't limit yourself to that extent and be competing for conference championships.
I think we've played out our discussion at this point. All a matter of opinion until an elite program tries it.
To your point, Georgia Tech hasn't had the success I would have expected, given their location. I'm not sure they are better than Navy in fact.
I hear you. I think the reason no one does it is based on recruiting concerns, not lack of feasibility. That is where we part company. For the record, I would not want CU to go there for the recruiting reason. I think CU can recruit well enough to be a consistent top third of the conference team. If you can get elite NFL-hopeful players, you do not need an outlier offense.
I regard the Air Raid, on one end, and the run based triple, on the other, as outliers. High risk, high reward. If an elite team went all in on either of those styles, they would still be elite and very well could have an extra, decided tactical advantage. But if you are elite, why take that risk?
Mostly agree and slightly disagree. His offense at UCF was Kelly + Malzahn. This was not an original thought...
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/10/23/16501428/scott-frost-ucf-coach-offense
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/10/23/16501428/scott-frost-ucf-coach-offense
Injecting it. But very clever!
Fair enough. I tend to agree with the article.
Or run a spelling bee
...and that is why I say it is a recruiting issue as much as anything else. Tate would be awesome at it, but every elite player dreams of cashing in at the next level.
I respectfully disagree lefty! Yes, Chip engineered his offense around a lot of concepts, especially pace of play, different mesh points with QB ball fakes and running, but Frost has the deeper option background, and you are seeing side to side movement, option concepts, Tight End down the seam, and other Osborne stuff in the UCF offense. I hate that Frost might actually get something figured out in Lincoln based on what we are talking about. What if Tate was the UCF QB this year and he looked like Lamar Jackson from the jump! Scary, really scary. The only thing that confuses me is the idea that we want to recruit Pro Style QB's, instead of Dual Threat that still throw well. That is why I like Montez is because at least he can still run and is willing to run.
Didn't OU also poach their LB coach Manning? I still am pissed at them for stealing Leavitt and Clark. OU isn't making any friends. Add Wazzu to the list of schools wanting blood when they play the ducks.
Could be a really good hire for them. Unfortunately.
Well that seems like something that could really hurt the Demetrice Martin to CU process.
I think it would be a really good hire. I hope they decide to go another way
Until arguably the best player in the country decides he can transfer anywhere he wants and play in an offense he wants.
And that should have absolutely no impact on a hiring decision. Not a factor.
Correct, but it should influence the idea that it’s Triple Option or bust.
If AZ were to hire Navy's Ken N., I could see him sticking with a similar offense as UA has now, but adding some triple option features. Over time, you might see it become more Triple Option oriented. Tate is good enough that you may cater to him for another 1-2 years while he's there.
Tate spooked'em