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Official realignment thread - SEC formally invites OU and Texas to join the conference in 2025
Is this a surprise? The dude thinks the middle class makes $35K a month.
How exactly is it self-serving to hate Baylor? What benefit does anyone who posts here receive by pointing out that Baylor sucks? It's like you don't understand words.
Bad, bad, bad optics. What the hell is Bohn thinking?
Was in a discussion with some friends about conference strength and he gave the ole "PAC-12 is the worst Power 5 conference". I disagreed and we started to dive in. Based on FPI, if you match up the PAC-12 #1 with another Conference's #1, #2 vs #2 etc. the PAC's record is 2-44. I don't think the conference would go 2-44 matched up against their equal in other conferences but apparently FPI thinks so. Thought that was interesting.
BerkeleyBuff
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Ya I think the list for the Big XII starts with, for sure, BYU, Cincy, and UCF. After that, Memphis, Boise, Houston, and maybe USF.
c3youngman
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Can't think of anything more classic than USC failing to follow the crowd for the betterment of the conference.
Bohn thinks? Who knew?
BerkeleyBuff
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I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
c3youngman
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RIP Texas Tech. Would have been a good add in my opinion. HUGE and passionate alumni base.
Well, not a huge surprise.
The B12 leftovers just are not enough of a media pull to make it worthwhile, I guess.
It will be interesting to see what happens next.
Perhaps the B1G will move on KU and ISU, which seem the most obvious choices for them.
Maybe the ACC adds WVU.
Will the B12 try to cobble together a conference out of the leftovers and the tallest midgets from the MWC and AAC?
Or will they fold up and have the B12 leftovers merge into the MWC and or AAC?
TCU, TT, KjSU, Okie Lite, bailer look to be pretty much screwed.
The B12 leftovers just are not enough of a media pull to make it worthwhile, I guess.
It will be interesting to see what happens next.
Perhaps the B1G will move on KU and ISU, which seem the most obvious choices for them.
Maybe the ACC adds WVU.
Will the B12 try to cobble together a conference out of the leftovers and the tallest midgets from the MWC and AAC?
Or will they fold up and have the B12 leftovers merge into the MWC and or AAC?
TCU, TT, KjSU, Okie Lite, bailer look to be pretty much screwed.
I’d still love to have KU as a basketball school in the PAC. However, it might be argued that their relative success in hoops was aided by their conference, who didn’t have a lot of other hoops schools who could seriously challenge them over an extended period of time. Put KU in the Pac or B1G and they become one of three or four solid programs, any of which could win the conference in any given year.
The American conference is about to get bigger!
I am perplexed by this take. The Big 12 was the best conference in college basketball last year*, and is at or near the top of the conference ranking every year.
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- 1st in NCAA Tournament bid percentage: 7 of 10 (70%)
- 3rd in NCAA Tournament record: 11-6 (64.7%)
- 1st in top 75 NBA Draft prospects: 12 (1.2 per team)
- 4th in average NET ranking: 66.7 (51.4 last year)
- 1st in average NET ranking excluding bottom two teams: 33.4 (39.9 last year)
It’s mostly an acknowledgement that KU has pretty well ruled that conference foe a very long time. While there are other solid programs in the B12, none are at KUs historical level. That wouldn’t be the case in any other conference.
UCF and USF add Florida for recruiting and Tampa and Orlando TV markets. CSU and New Mexico would add the Denver and Albuquerque TV markets.
All 4 schools have heavy alumni populations that live within driving distance of campus. Which might make their TV rights at least preservable or give them a long game of improved rights in the future.
Bohn saw $$$?
Very workable since the B12 schools would pad their win totals with CSU & UNM.
I mean - he's absolutely right. OU and UT, as a package deal could pick their landing spot.
Their choice honestly says more about their priorities as schools than it says about the value or values of any single conference.
Maybe I'm biased against csu but how much do Denver residents really care about csu football ? I have a hard time believing that swings the tv market needle all that much.
UtahaluminTX
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Hopefully today's inaction doesn't mean future regrets ... I recall a 10 team league a few years back deciding not to do anything and I wonder if they'd have been better off today had they acted. Will fear of the SEC be enough to keep the Alliance together to enough of an extent to work somewhat effectively?
I'm not surprised at holding off on Pac expansion.
It's hard to imagine the numbers are there to split the pie into 14 slices instead of 12 and make more money. I thought maybe the Texas market might do it but the problem is that no one moves the needle on a national broadcast if they're unranked (by name brand alone).
It's hard to imagine the numbers are there to split the pie into 14 slices instead of 12 and make more money. I thought maybe the Texas market might do it but the problem is that no one moves the needle on a national broadcast if they're unranked (by name brand alone).
Bliff Cranch
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Only slightly less than they care about CU. The Denver demographic is increasingly transplants from elsewhere who don’t care much about either.