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We take you now to Chapel Hill, NC ... AGAIN
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I liked this post when I first saw it, but then gave it more consideration. If I ever interview a Chapel Hill grad again, I will absolutely request their full transcripts so I can exactly what courses they took.
so the head of the panel that reviewed the UNC matter is Greg Sankey, commish of the SEC.
theory #1: the NCAA is ineffective and would have reached similar conclusions regardless of who was in charge
theory #2: this is nothing for SEC schools and Sankey honestly didn't see anything wrong
theory #3: backroom deal took place and we'll see UNC bolt to the SEC within 2 years
my subjective probability for each theory being correct is 50%/20%/30% respectively.
theory #1: the NCAA is ineffective and would have reached similar conclusions regardless of who was in charge
theory #2: this is nothing for SEC schools and Sankey honestly didn't see anything wrong
theory #3: backroom deal took place and we'll see UNC bolt to the SEC within 2 years
my subjective probability for each theory being correct is 50%/20%/30% respectively.
This is the part to me that's incongruous with the NCAA's official statement- how is this not a special benefit?
So you're better off if the whole university cheats instead of just the athletic department. Got it.
What a crock of ****ing ****.
What a crock of ****ing ****.
Meanwhile in Raleigh...
This makes perfect sense to the NCAA.
Penalize athletes for going to class and letting a whole school get away with giving fake credits.
May not matter a lot in the big picture. If this FBI investigation continues hard to imagine that UNC isn't involved. DOJ doesn't care what kind of ratings a team generates for the networks.
The NCAA might as well not even bother investigating these things. Such a ****ing joke to ever claim they care about "student" athletes with what the let schools get away with. I guess they can't claim their favorite lack of institutional control here, because this was a well thought out plan by UNC and they bet it would be worth it. And it was. What's to stop every school that doesn't care about academics (which the list is growing every day) from great "auto A" classes that anyone can enroll in, but they fill it with athletes and sprinkle in a free frat bros?
UNC has now actually managed to surpass the ****ing Irish on my list of college sports hatred. I've always despised their basketball program, going back to Gene Smith's four corners "offense", **** turds like Eric Montross, etc., but never had any active animosity for their other sports programs. Those days are over ... the only school higher on my hatred list is **** bailer. And now **** UNC.
And **** the NCAA. I was peripherally involved as an attorney in the Jeremy Bloom eligibility question (whether he could accept endorsement money for his non-football related sports activity, i.e., free form skiing, and still play CFB for CU) ... and the NCAA's anal and unreasonable approach to the question and unwillingness to find some kind of compromise was outrageous, to say the least. They have effectively squandered what little credibility and moral authority they had left.
And **** the NCAA. I was peripherally involved as an attorney in the Jeremy Bloom eligibility question (whether he could accept endorsement money for his non-football related sports activity, i.e., free form skiing, and still play CFB for CU) ... and the NCAA's anal and unreasonable approach to the question and unwillingness to find some kind of compromise was outrageous, to say the least. They have effectively squandered what little credibility and moral authority they had left.
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So ... a perfect candidate for a position in the Trump administration then?
From this article:
Perhaps the Association of American Universities (AAU) could sanction and/or de-certify the University of No Character on the grounds of academic fraud? They certainly de-certified the great great kNU on far less egregious shortcomings (although well justified of course).
Perhaps the Association of American Universities (AAU) could sanction and/or de-certify the University of No Character on the grounds of academic fraud? They certainly de-certified the great great kNU on far less egregious shortcomings (although well justified of course).
That. Is. Awesome.
There's a certain so-called "university" that's missing from this webpage image ... and one that certainly should be very soon (can you guess what they are?). I truly intend to research any procedures for removing UNC from this graphic/list. Not sure what the "standing" issues my be for this kind of action, but I should certainly think that this kind of thing** would disqualify any university from membership in what is an organization that is internationally recognized as exemplary for academic excellence.
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Your post above from almost three years ago was astoundingly prescient. And they didn't even get those minor sanctions as far as I can tell.
The NCAA definitely bricked. 3 and 1/2 years for that? Embarrassing.
bigskybuff
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This is a complete joke. Things like this are the reason I am becoming less and less a college football fan. Blatant cheating, no problem. Starting football games that end at 3 am, utter stupidity. Tv controlling everything with obnoxious announcers, never ending. It's getting real old quickly. If they are going to just let colleges cheat with no repurcussions why even have an NCAA? I'll laugh at any NC grad I ever meet now. Not quite in the Ped State realm but getting closer every year. The school must be run by the same people who govern the state.
cu3x
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education clearly is not what many of these athletes go to college for. the argument they should be paid just got a huge boost and it won't be that long before they start suing in federal court for additional 'freedoms.' expect free agency in another 5 years. this was a maybe fatal blow to college sports as we used to know them.
ok, so the takeaway from this is that if a school is going to help athletes cheat, they need to document that they also helped at least one member of the general student body cheat as well.
FFS
I find the use of the word "benefitted" infuriating. As if school is a giant inconvenience and students and student-athletes are some how better off with fake classes.
The NCAA believes we all benefit when we don't learn at college.
The NCAA shouldn't exist, what do they do exactly anyway?
great observation
I don't understand how they can hide behind the fact that this was a fake class just because everyone had the option to take it. There's a reason employees look at resumes to see where a kid graduated from. Universities come with certain academic reputation. This says you can just get any degree from any school as long as you pay enough money to them? Is that really the standard we want to set? Maybe that was already the case anyway.
I'm starting to feel like we need to destroy the thing I love. (As it exists today)
Yep but it still needs a governing body imho. Otherwise it's the Wild West. It can't be the NCAA though.