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The all-in-one Hawkins thread
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Re: At this hour
Nolonger Competitive.
Your appearance of sympathy is well regarded by the way.
what exactly does NC stand for here?:wow:
Nolonger Competitive.
Your appearance of sympathy is well regarded by the way.
Re: Bohn To Announce Hawkins' Fate Tomorrow (Thursday)
Is it possible Bohn gets back to Boulder and has a talk with DiStefano? Maybe tells him how keeping Hawk around will result in serious loss of revenue, angry fan base, transfers that hurt the mighty APR score, etc.
I find it hard to believe that Hawk strolled into DiStefano's office yesterday and just said hey man my team is full of good students, even though I have shown nothing on the football field, overrule your AD and give me another year. Well Dan, agree to a lesser buyout for next year and you have yourself a deal, let me text Mike the good news.
Is it possible Bohn gets back to Boulder and has a talk with DiStefano? Maybe tells him how keeping Hawk around will result in serious loss of revenue, angry fan base, transfers that hurt the mighty APR score, etc.
I find it hard to believe that Hawk strolled into DiStefano's office yesterday and just said hey man my team is full of good students, even though I have shown nothing on the football field, overrule your AD and give me another year. Well Dan, agree to a lesser buyout for next year and you have yourself a deal, let me text Mike the good news.
Idot Buff
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Re: OK, lets start taking names. How about an accountable poll?
Please elaborate doosh face.
Re: To all the sunshine pumpers, if he is retained as it looks like
Nor Cal, I understand voting with your wallet. I intend to do so. I won't make any general donation in 2010 until I'm either funding a buyout or supporting a winning program. The donations I am planning instead, are going toward charity tickets to home basketball games. $100 to Chauncey's Kids gets 1 kid to a game (plus food & souvenir). Also, a few of us have an email out to Bohn & Mahmood to see if we could pool together to donate a bunch of season tix instead. So I'm focusing on supporting the basketball program and helping them win by doing my part to get people in the stands. If they ask for money for the practice facility, I'm in. If I have a good year in my business, I'll probably fund a basketball scholarship for 2010-2011.
I understand you're upset, but please try to avoid the name calling. People may have a different opinion than you (and they may be wrong), but that does not mean they are "mindless", "droolers" or "dumb". You're doing your side of the argument no favors by coming off that way.
Nor Cal, I understand voting with your wallet. I intend to do so. I won't make any general donation in 2010 until I'm either funding a buyout or supporting a winning program. The donations I am planning instead, are going toward charity tickets to home basketball games. $100 to Chauncey's Kids gets 1 kid to a game (plus food & souvenir). Also, a few of us have an email out to Bohn & Mahmood to see if we could pool together to donate a bunch of season tix instead. So I'm focusing on supporting the basketball program and helping them win by doing my part to get people in the stands. If they ask for money for the practice facility, I'm in. If I have a good year in my business, I'll probably fund a basketball scholarship for 2010-2011.
I understand you're upset, but please try to avoid the name calling. People may have a different opinion than you (and they may be wrong), but that does not mean they are "mindless", "droolers" or "dumb". You're doing your side of the argument no favors by coming off that way.
Money is an object
People. This is, if he stays, as much to do about economics as anything. Its easy for us to play Monopoly with CU's money, but we can't. So try to understand the obsticles that the AD has to deal with and relax. It is easy to get pissed off and take your ball and go home. But it isn't fair. For a while I thought that, indeed, some donor stepped up. But I'm pretty sure that isn't true. CU had no choice. Also, don't pull the, "Well, this will cost them a ton of money" BS. That is a poor economic argument.
People. This is, if he stays, as much to do about economics as anything. Its easy for us to play Monopoly with CU's money, but we can't. So try to understand the obsticles that the AD has to deal with and relax. It is easy to get pissed off and take your ball and go home. But it isn't fair. For a while I thought that, indeed, some donor stepped up. But I'm pretty sure that isn't true. CU had no choice. Also, don't pull the, "Well, this will cost them a ton of money" BS. That is a poor economic argument.
Re: To all the sunshine pumpers, if he is retained as it looks like
To call someone a bad fan or an idiot for wanting to go to games and support the team is just wrong on every level.
To call someone a bad fan or an idiot for wanting to go to games and support the team is just wrong on every level.
Re: At this hour
Im pretty sure I'd quit on the fucking spot. If he announces that instead of Hawks future Mike Bohn just moved up my respect yard stick more than 1 notch.
I'm just curious if Bohn will stick around? If his decision was truly overturned, why would he want to remain in the AD position? Apparently DiStefano thinks he can do a better job..
Im pretty sure I'd quit on the fucking spot. If he announces that instead of Hawks future Mike Bohn just moved up my respect yard stick more than 1 notch.
Re: Money is an object
**** OFF and quit trying to tell people how to feel or react. He would be fired everywhere else. Fowler and people say we have the money. It's the chicken **** administration butting in and they no longer care if cu wins or not. You obviously agree with them.
**** OFF and quit trying to tell people how to feel or react. He would be fired everywhere else. Fowler and people say we have the money. It's the chicken **** administration butting in and they no longer care if cu wins or not. You obviously agree with them.
Re: OK, lets start taking names. How about an accountable poll?
I thought about the third category, but figured that is where everyone would vote. It would be an easy cop out. I'm sick of people saying "If he stays, I'm done!!!!" Well, if thats the way you feel, prove it. None of that, "Well, yeah, I said that, but didn't mean it" stuff.
I thought about the third category, but figured that is where everyone would vote. It would be an easy cop out. I'm sick of people saying "If he stays, I'm done!!!!" Well, if thats the way you feel, prove it. None of that, "Well, yeah, I said that, but didn't mean it" stuff.
Re: At this hour
I come home to Texas for the first time for Thanksgiving in about 8 years. I was actually excited about who was gonna lead the program next year. The CU administration never ceases to amaze me with how badly they manage athletics, especially football. Do they really not see this is gonna do more hurt than good in the long run? I hoped Hawk could turn things around but I really dont think the guy can. Hope he proves all CU fans wrong.
I come home to Texas for the first time for Thanksgiving in about 8 years. I was actually excited about who was gonna lead the program next year. The CU administration never ceases to amaze me with how badly they manage athletics, especially football. Do they really not see this is gonna do more hurt than good in the long run? I hoped Hawk could turn things around but I really dont think the guy can. Hope he proves all CU fans wrong.
Re: To all the sunshine pumpers, if he is retained as it looks like
that is your prerogative. as an out of state season ticket holder, i can totally respect that. thanks for supporting the program.
how many games did you get to this year?
that is your prerogative. as an out of state season ticket holder, i can totally respect that. thanks for supporting the program.
how many games did you get to this year?
just a thought, not sure even i agree with this
So if we all stop supporting (buying tix etc), as many have suggested and have a right to do, we all agree that it has a negative financial impact on the program at least for the long haul.
Since it seems that Distephano made this call why make the AD suffer? Why not continue to support the AD but stop all donations to the university? I myself send a good chunk of change to the Leeds school every year. If we quit supporting the school would it help Distephano see the link between a successful athletic department and a successful school?
So if we all stop supporting (buying tix etc), as many have suggested and have a right to do, we all agree that it has a negative financial impact on the program at least for the long haul.
Since it seems that Distephano made this call why make the AD suffer? Why not continue to support the AD but stop all donations to the university? I myself send a good chunk of change to the Leeds school every year. If we quit supporting the school would it help Distephano see the link between a successful athletic department and a successful school?
Re: Transfers
this is total Bull****, right now I am so f-in pissed, I feel like not watching anymore CU football while this mutherfuker is the HC. I'm so f-in tired of stupid penalties, stupid gameday decisions, damage by real or percieved nepotism, mediocre recruiting, bulscheisse statements, egotistic stubbordness, and I just cant even stand looking at the POS let alone listen to him. I have never felt like this about any coach in any of the sports I follow. He is still selling snake oil, and it looks like the CU administration is still buying it!!! WTF is going on? I have zero faith in Hackins as does a good portion of the fanbase, the conference, the boosters, the media, the bookies, and the rest of the f-in CFB world! He CAN"T coach worth a dam, it was all Peterson, so why the hell is he being retained when the money is there (Fowler said on Nat'l TV)?
I'm sorry, but there is very little to look forward to anymore. I was content when I believed the moron was going to get fired. Now... another 5th straight losing season.
Well, this is just too much, there are so many things in life much better than dealing with the disappointment of CU football under Dan squawkins. Maybe I'll feel better next year, but another f-in CU season down the drain with no end in sight.
I cant believe Bohn, DiStefano, and Hack have killed my interest in CU football. Most of it at least.
I know I seem rash, but that's how I f-in feel right now. I'm not paying for another ticket while he's there.
Well, there's always B-ball and BuZZ, let's the boys on the court have a much better season and give us something to cheer for.
this is total Bull****, right now I am so f-in pissed, I feel like not watching anymore CU football while this mutherfuker is the HC. I'm so f-in tired of stupid penalties, stupid gameday decisions, damage by real or percieved nepotism, mediocre recruiting, bulscheisse statements, egotistic stubbordness, and I just cant even stand looking at the POS let alone listen to him. I have never felt like this about any coach in any of the sports I follow. He is still selling snake oil, and it looks like the CU administration is still buying it!!! WTF is going on? I have zero faith in Hackins as does a good portion of the fanbase, the conference, the boosters, the media, the bookies, and the rest of the f-in CFB world! He CAN"T coach worth a dam, it was all Peterson, so why the hell is he being retained when the money is there (Fowler said on Nat'l TV)?
I'm sorry, but there is very little to look forward to anymore. I was content when I believed the moron was going to get fired. Now... another 5th straight losing season.
Well, this is just too much, there are so many things in life much better than dealing with the disappointment of CU football under Dan squawkins. Maybe I'll feel better next year, but another f-in CU season down the drain with no end in sight.
I cant believe Bohn, DiStefano, and Hack have killed my interest in CU football. Most of it at least.
I know I seem rash, but that's how I f-in feel right now. I'm not paying for another ticket while he's there.
Well, there's always B-ball and BuZZ, let's the boys on the court have a much better season and give us something to cheer for.
Re: At this hour
What these fools do not realize is that the alums of the late 80s and early 90s are entering their 40s or approaching their 50s which are the prime earning years for most Americans. Those same alums attended CU during the zenith of CU Football and are connected to the University by that. They will not look kindly on this CF with their check books. :dbt:
What these fools do not realize is that the alums of the late 80s and early 90s are entering their 40s or approaching their 50s which are the prime earning years for most Americans. Those same alums attended CU during the zenith of CU Football and are connected to the University by that. They will not look kindly on this CF with their check books. :dbt:
Re: Money is an object
Why would Chris Fowler of all people say that the money was there?
Why would DiStefano, who has nothing to do with the AD and it's funds, make an economic decision for them?
Why is "it'll cost them more to keep Hawk than to pay the buyout and a new coach" a poor economic argument? Seems pretty simple to me, $3 M for Hawk, $1 M for assistants, $1 M - 1.5 M for a new coach, $1 M for new staff. Roughly $6 M next year. Keeping Hawk, some have said it could easily reach the $10 million mark. $4 million loss? I'm no economics major or anything, so let me know where I'm wrong.
Why would Chris Fowler of all people say that the money was there?
Why would DiStefano, who has nothing to do with the AD and it's funds, make an economic decision for them?
Why is "it'll cost them more to keep Hawk than to pay the buyout and a new coach" a poor economic argument? Seems pretty simple to me, $3 M for Hawk, $1 M for assistants, $1 M - 1.5 M for a new coach, $1 M for new staff. Roughly $6 M next year. Keeping Hawk, some have said it could easily reach the $10 million mark. $4 million loss? I'm no economics major or anything, so let me know where I'm wrong.
Re: Money is an object
When attendance drops by 5k a game next season, if you assume conservatively that each person spends $70 a game, that's $2.1mm lost right there. The loss to the community on game days over the season will push that well above the $3mm that it would have cost to fire Hawkins.
This isn't monetary, this is a chancellor without a brain.
When attendance drops by 5k a game next season, if you assume conservatively that each person spends $70 a game, that's $2.1mm lost right there. The loss to the community on game days over the season will push that well above the $3mm that it would have cost to fire Hawkins.
This isn't monetary, this is a chancellor without a brain.
Re: Money is an object
Not absolutely. I'm just not sure what recourse they have. They are paying off a $3 million loan on Barnett. Buying out Hawkins would add another $3.5 million. The economy is in the tank. They can't afford a big name, so would have to gamble on a no name. I can't believe you don't understand that. Stop making me the villian.
JimmyBuff
Well-Known Member
Re: Money is an object
:yeahthat:
DBT you are lost.. This had nothing to do with money.. It was about Distefano overstepping our AD to keep this clown coach..
Go ahead and support him all you want, but don't try to make other people who have a clue to support Talkins.
:yeahthat:
DBT you are lost.. This had nothing to do with money.. It was about Distefano overstepping our AD to keep this clown coach..
Go ahead and support him all you want, but don't try to make other people who have a clue to support Talkins.
Re: Money is an object
While I am not supportive of retaining Coach hawkins, you have a valid point. Hawk's a decent guy and I would be ok retaining if it met long term economic objectives. My problem lies in the comments that came out over the weekend from the chancellor, regents and the AD. To paraphrase, they said they were shooting for mediocrity. Winning wasn't that important. You may disagree but that's what I read.
While I am not supportive of retaining Coach hawkins, you have a valid point. Hawk's a decent guy and I would be ok retaining if it met long term economic objectives. My problem lies in the comments that came out over the weekend from the chancellor, regents and the AD. To paraphrase, they said they were shooting for mediocrity. Winning wasn't that important. You may disagree but that's what I read.
Re: Do you agree with the decision to retain Hawk for another year?
Which makes this all the more frustrating. We've all seen the schedule for next year, it's brutal. I see no way hawk pulls a winning season out of his ***, which means we'll be going through this same song and dance next year. Why not just cut the cord now....
Re: Bohn To Announce Hawkins' Fate Tomorrow (Thursday)
There are gonna be so angry mofos at Folsom come friday. Should have come to the game instead of coming home to Texas. I hope Bohn fixes this after his redeye. Un****ingbelievable.
There are gonna be so angry mofos at Folsom come friday. Should have come to the game instead of coming home to Texas. I hope Bohn fixes this after his redeye. Un****ingbelievable.