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Falo and Gordon SUSPENDED sentences (reinstated for fall camp)
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ugh
That's some bull **** right there.
aik
Well-Known Member
Apsay's was more a habitual offense I think. Like Samson, was given many chances to stop violating team rules. Kept stepping in it and couldn't get out of the doghouse.
Who says they aren't "great young men" who committed a stupid mistake?
Agreed! I followed Dino's HS career and loved his ability. I thought he would eventually become a very good college back at CU. I am not going to defend his actions, stealing is stealing and speaks to character. However, if he were to have decided to take a video game and while there saw a bottle of pills and grabbed them, you can see how quickly a misdemeanor can escalate into a drug related crime. He may indeed be a good kid who made a terrible and misguided decision. Hopefully he will learn from this and grow! I will miss the anticipation of his ability on the field at CU.
DiggerBuffs
Well-Known Member
There is zero justification of this. Stole multiple expensive things and a controlled substance. Honestly, Gordon is not a huge loss but Falo could be two fold. We need a dynamic pass rusher and LB depth and we need his brother. Both are unlikely to happen.
Medford M.
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Plead it out. Community service. On the field game one. I hate people doing stupid crap, and some things mean you don't deserve a second chance. This is nowhere near that level.
lvbuff
Well-Known Member
Agreed, silly dorm shenanigans that got out of control.
There'd have to be an elaborate prank war behind all this to explain stealing $1000+ worth of stuff with no apparent plan to return it. If somebody took your laptop, I doubt you'd call it a shenanigan. You'd call the cops just like these kids did.
Cam Newton got kicked out of Florida for something similar, so this stuff doesn't just get swept away on other campuses. The problem with theft is it's pretty cut and dry. Assault's, drug tests have a bit of grey area, but theft's are tough to talk your way out of, and they have a dollar value.
It'd be pretty rational if these kids never came back to the program, and it wouldn't be CU's fault for not taking football seriously enough, per the usual complaint.
I hope there suspensions serve notice to the rest of the team, that this is what will happen when you *uck up.
lvbuff
Well-Known Member
Since when did a video game cost a thousand dollars?
Where were you the day they were handing moral compasses?
lvbuff
Well-Known Member
Actually, you are the one that has judged them and found them guilty of only "silly dorm shenanigans". You clearly believe that you have "facts" and already know how they will "play out". Please share your inside info so we can see why you are so quick to give them a pass.
pcbuff
Well-Known Member
My limited and dated perspective is that the campus police were at a much lower teir of professionalism than BPD. While I expect them to be gone, I won't be surprised if there is a lot more to this story. The campus cops at CU were the most aggressive by far of the 5 universities I spent time at.
A silly dorm shenanigan is taking someone's towel when they are in the community shower down the hall, not breaking into someone else's room and stealing ~$3k in prescription drugs, laptops, video game consoles, and other electronics.
Says the man whose sig line is: "I didn't do it".
I like that Big Jim has the moral high ground. So indignant!
Mb2658
Well-Known Member
Not to defend theft, because stealing is bs, but we don't know how they are valuing the items that were taken. A 2 year old used PS4 is not worth as much as a brand new out of the box one. Cops tend to err on the side of overvaluing items rather than undervaluing them. They also have a tendency for overcharging and letting the DA's office sort it out. What someone was charged with upon their arrest and what they end up actually pleaing to or being convicted of, are two entirely different things.
There's a lot of truth to this. particularly with the CUPD.
Ummmm.... the dollar amount is not the point here.
USC alumni usually do.
On the original point, this is a...er...creative way to clear up the logjam in the backfield.
It could be the difference between a misdemeanor and felony, though.
Nobody is excusing their actions, but it's a well known fact that the CUPD inflates their charges.
Understand. The $$ is not the point of my original comment about this just being "dorm room shenanigans", though.
As it pertains to the money and whether it's a misdemeanor or felony, I think it only matters for these two relative to how it affects their personal lives going forward, not whether they play football for CU again... Which I think is essentially a foregone conclusion that they won't be. At least for Dino that is.
Mb2658
Well-Known Member
Granted. The burglary of the controlled substance is going to be their biggest problem as it is a class 3 felony instead of 4. I was more talking about the machinations of the legal system and how things play out. Probable cause and proof beyond a reasonable doubt are two different standards. If they plea to or are convicted of misdemeanors (if the value is below $1000, it is a class 1 misdemeanor instead of a felony), there is a higher likelihood that they are able to come back. The felonies make that possibility very remote if not impossible, IMO. Either way the entire situation is ridiculous and shouldn't have happened.