None of those G5 teams have the rivalry aspect that CSU does. They would be energized for the game, but that doesn't match CSU'S emotion to the game. And I wouldn't have to be around CSU "fans"
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Future of football series vs CSU
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Here a third person perspective from a guy who "gets it."
Of course, CSU shouldn't worry too much. They're lining up for a Pac 12 invite around 2020, aren't they?
ramfan
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You really get no argument from me here. The RMS does bring out more people who otherwise don't give a **** the rest of the year. I still think focuses will shift, although some of the passion might go away.
We can talk attendance smack, CSU's attendance isn't good and we don't have a large fan base, but that 22K number really isn't terrible given school wasn't in session (no students), the size of our fan base in general, and we were playing New Mexico. Not that it's some huge thing to brag about but there were two sellouts in the weeks previous to that. What would CU's attendance be if New Mexico were the senior day opponent? I think we can all admit that a decent part of CU's fan base/attendance advantage is due to the conference they play in. That's ok, it's nothing to apologize for, but expecting both schools to be the same or painting it as a negative when CSU has a lower attendance isn't an apples to apples comparison. If CSU and CU had the same attendance it would tell you more about CU than CSU.
ramfan
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Uh, the border war was a sellout.
ramfan
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This is true, but it isn't any different than CU or most other schools (once we scale for conference/national exposure). What would CU's attendance have looked like last year with a similar record and a MWC schedule? Don't get me wrong, I'm not claiming CSU has great attendance or even great attendance given the circumstances, there is still a lot of work to do there, but we shouldn't be comparing attendance between Pac and MWC teams.
bump - I think this is still active
CU students were terrible this last year. I don't think the Denver game is appealing to them at all anymore. In past years they dominated the crowd noise.
Great post - repable, but I have no more to give today.
ahoelsken
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Good stuff Ramfan-I think both fanbases are on the same page-the game needs to go back to campus. I think you guys also have the same issues with the game that most of us have-the Denver police, the venue in general, etc. As much as I like doing Boulder-Denver (until your new stadium is built), I doubt the Denver people (the Broncos and Metro Sports Commission) would go for that. If I'm understanding the developments this week, Rick George wanted the series back on campus NOW, and he was told no by both CSU and the Broncos.
It seems to me that Rick George is playing chess to CSU's checkers here......The PR beating that we knew was coming has been nowhere near as bad as I thought it would be. Many on the radio have been saying (and I'm not referring to CU people like Alfred Williams when I say that) that they understand why Rick George is doing this-We need 6 games at home a year, and we don't have that in 2017, and wouldn't have that this year if we don't have the extra game as a result of the Hawaii exemption. OTOH, CSU either thinks we'll cave like Florida did when you played hardball with them over Sparkles' buyout. More than likely, Sackman is right, and your leadership doesn't understand how much you need this game to played every year.
Because, even in a 2-1 situation, that road game isn't in a recruiting region already dominated by Colorado. That road game is in a location with either alumni, or an opportunity for kids recruited from those areas to play a game in their home state. Whether it's CSU, AF or even Wyoming, there is no value in CU playing a road game against those teams. CU's road non-conf's should be in Texas, Hawaii, the North East, or even additional games in California would present more value staying in region.
Deleted member 807
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This.
Life is too short to have CSU cockblock some opportunity to witness gameday on storied campuses around the nation.
one marque roadie every other year or so would be fantastic.
my CU bucket list includes:
@ LSU
@ Old Miss
@ Wisconsin
@ UVA
@ AFA
@ Army - Westpoint
@ ND
@ penn State
Iowa would be fun
I totally agree. We need to hang the next five games around their neck. Then drop the mic.
That is the rumor.
Deleted member 807
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The issue with old Big 8 foes is that CU fans don't exactly show up in force. History shows less than 1000 fans going to Columbia, Lawrence, or Norman.
The nostalga play for Buff fans is watching former B8 peers take field in Boulder.
Having been to Norman and Lawrence, I can claim "been there, done that."
Let me tell you that game day in Norman and Lawrence aren't nearly as fun as Okie Light or Texas Tech.
The fans are't as friendly. Lodging is limited at both OU and KU, which may mean spending the night in OKC or KC. Boring!
If I could choose just 1 or 2 road trips a year, I'd prioritze a trip to any Pac12 location ahead of KU and OU.
A game at West Point would be epic. We talk about the natural beauty of the CU campus. It's got nothing on West Point. That place is awe inspiring.
As for roadies that I'd like, most have been mentioned already, but for the sake of dreaming:
Ole Miss - would LOVE to experience tailgating there. I could learn a thing or two from those folks, I think.
Clemson - That part of the country is awesome. Love it. I love their passion for football, too.
Tulane - Hey, it's in New Orleans. Hells yeah!
Duke - Reunite MM and Cutliffe.
Northwestern - Chicago roadie in September, catch a Cubs game while we're at it. Eat a meal at Harry Caray's.
As for roadies that I'd like, most have been mentioned already, but for the sake of dreaming:
Ole Miss - would LOVE to experience tailgating there. I could learn a thing or two from those folks, I think.
Clemson - That part of the country is awesome. Love it. I love their passion for football, too.
Tulane - Hey, it's in New Orleans. Hells yeah!
Duke - Reunite MM and Cutliffe.
Northwestern - Chicago roadie in September, catch a Cubs game while we're at it. Eat a meal at Harry Caray's.
ahoelsken
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Yes and no. Some of my take is going back on Mike Bohn and his headscratching OOC scheduling. In terms of the Northeast, we need to keep that at a level where we're playing American teams (ideally at a 2 for 1 basis-I think you can get that with most people in that league outside of UConn and Cincy), BC, Army, or Syracuse. We don't need to be playing people like UMass or Buffalo anywhere but Boulder. As far as California, I'd argue the upcoming series with San Jose State does very little for us-especially given that it was scheduled before MM took the job here. Same with Fresno, but they'll schedule any P5 team they can get at deals that are favorable to them. San Diego State makes some sense-NFL stadium, and you're playing in front of your recruits.
As far as locally, why are we still talking about the local round-robin thing? Wyoming will come here for a one-off, and they've done so twice in the last 20 years. Air Force will never play us in football-Not only history, but they have one OOC slot they can play with (Army, Navy, and the cupcake they play more often than not).
ahoelsken
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Depends on the school. I've always been open to playing K-State again-That game was nowhere near the level of rivalry that we had with Nebraska, but those games were pretty fun from 1995-2005ish.
No Big 12 please.
Didn't we have LSU on a future schedule awhile back and it fell through? I like some of the matchups mentioned, ill add another Arkansas. Anybody mentioned them I missed it.
Deleted member 807
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If any former Big 8 program wants to do a one and done game in Boulder, I'm good with that.
But let's forget about the return trip. We have the Nubs on a future schedule for the nostalgia crowd for a 2-2 series. That's plenty for now.
I don't know why I made the mistake of looking at the Denver Post sports section. But a headline there says this by Mike Klis: "5 CSU Rams, 0 CU Buffs invited to NFL scouting combine"
another reason to end the CU-CSU series. It seems like the Denver Post has some agenda against the Buffs maybe? If zero buffs were invited to the combine, is that news? If your story is about the 5 players from CSU, in my opinion you diminished their success by making it more about us than their success. Celebrate their invites but seems to me it's more also a dig at CU. It's just my opinion and maybe other will disagree, but most local papers support their schools. The Denver Post should he ashamed of the CU bashing that goes on.
i think both schools could benefit from this ending.
another reason to end the CU-CSU series. It seems like the Denver Post has some agenda against the Buffs maybe? If zero buffs were invited to the combine, is that news? If your story is about the 5 players from CSU, in my opinion you diminished their success by making it more about us than their success. Celebrate their invites but seems to me it's more also a dig at CU. It's just my opinion and maybe other will disagree, but most local papers support their schools. The Denver Post should he ashamed of the CU bashing that goes on.
i think both schools could benefit from this ending.