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Official 2017 Coaching Carousel Thread - Zona hires Sumlin
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Tennessee will go after the biggest names out there and Frost isn't that guy.
Agree. They should be trying to emulate Wisconsin as well. Never going to out recruit Ohio State or Michigan, and they are in an area of the country that they can be successful recruiting the big OL kids.
Can you imagine the shockwaves from Rocky Top if they replace Food Cart with a guy like Frost?
Florida's offensive performance hasn't helped.
No. Hell no.
If MM were to leave, I would have Jim Leavitt on speed dial.
If he were to leave I would look at P5 coordinators or G5 coaches.
Norvell
Leavitt
Morris
Montgomery
Strong
Frost
Wilson
Aranda (although fading quickly)
Vanables
Cristobal
Or try to poach a P5 guy who isn't as happy as it may seem or wants to get back somewhere (obviously more long shots)
McElwain
Holgorsen
Gundy
Mullen
Norvell
Leavitt
Morris
Montgomery
Strong
Frost
Wilson
Aranda (although fading quickly)
Vanables
Cristobal
Or try to poach a P5 guy who isn't as happy as it may seem or wants to get back somewhere (obviously more long shots)
McElwain
Holgorsen
Gundy
Mullen
Maybe Aranda ends up being thrown to the side by the elites, leaving him available for the Buffs. I would love him as a hire, although, I know nothing about his recruiting background.
Would also love Venables, but he's getting an elite job at some point.
You think Gundy would make a move from Stillwater to Boulder? I know you said long shot, but that feels like a less than zero percent chance. CU doesn't have an Uncle Pickens.
I wouldn't think so but he doesn't get along with Pickens and has expressed interest in jobs the last few years, I'm not sure if that is just to get more money or if he is really interested in getting out.
Are we seriously talking about MM leaving at the end of this season? Unless he rights the ship and we finish 10-2, he's not getting poached this year. Last year was great but it looks unlikely that we'll see a repeat of that performance. What larger school is going to steal a coach who wins 7-ish games?
It's a dumb conversation, to be sure, but whatever. If he gets the Buffs to 8 wins this year, I could see teams inquiring, though. It won't be Tennessee or a program looking to make a splash hire, but there could be offers. After 2018 season is more likely, IMO.
Folks will make sure turnaround is real unless it’s a target school like GaTech, Vandy, etc. MM should have waited as well.
Are we talking about the same thing? 247 has Nebraska's last five at...
38th (current)
23rd
26th
30th
35th
Frost is going to have his choice of jobs including some much better opportunities than Nebraska.
Unless Riley makes a huge turnaround I think kNU goes after Frost. For him it will be a tough choice.
He knows what the challenges are in Stinkoln with recruiting, with a conference dominated by 2-3 of college footballs superpowers, and of the unrealistic expectations of the corn fans. Balanced against that is his sense of being a part of the school and his loyalty to what the program was.
In the end I think he is smart enough to choose to go elsewhere leaving the corn fans both crying and being even less happy with who they do eventually hire.
Unless Riley makes a huge turnaround I think kNU goes after Frost. For him it will be a tough choice.
He knows what the challenges are in Stinkoln with recruiting, with a conference dominated by 2-3 of college footballs superpowers, and of the unrealistic expectations of the corn fans. Balanced against that is his sense of being a part of the school and his loyalty to what the program was.
In the end I think he is smart enough to choose to go elsewhere leaving the corn fans both crying and being even less happy with who they do eventually hire.
Solid argument.
He's originally from the west coast. He's been an OC at Fresno State, Washington, Alabama, Michigan, and Florida so plenty of big boy coaching experience, but he's still only 46 years old. He's coached 5 QBs that were drafted into the NFL. Coached Jake Locker into a top 10 NFL pick. Made Marc Bulger a pro bowler with the Rams which is a minor miracle. Had 2 QBs at Michigan State set school records for passing yards.
His career since Michigan State has been pretty bad. That "big boy" coaching experience includes his current gig at Florida. Have you watched Florida football over the last three years? If you have, I am wondering why you would even want to hire him as OC, let alone HC.
He also was pushed out at Bama and the one year at Michigan was a non-bowl team. That is a bad trajectory at several different schools.
If the nibbletts call, Frost will come home. I'm not entirely convinced anybody can do much better there than Riley. It's turning into a roided up version of Wyoming. It's hard to sell a kid on a program in the middle of nowhere when you can't beat the likes of Northern Illinois. At home. The facilities and tradition are nice, but there are 20 other schools that have the same stuff in more attractive locations.
Jake Locker was a top 10 pick, Marc Bulger was a pro bowler, AJ McCarron set school records for TDs en route to a national championship. Those all happened after his Michigan State job.
Florida hasn't had a qb for years but that's also a McElwain team and offense. They've been ok. He's been hired by some really good coaches at marquee programs which I think is a decent endorsement.
Strange anyone would think MikMac is going to get poached.
I agree MikMac is not likely to get poached.
He will never enjoy the talent advantages he had at Alabama the rest of his career. The fact Nick Saban decided to move on after only two years and rolled the dice with Lane Kiffin says a lot.
111, 100, 107, 81 are his scoring offenses the last four years and the last ranking is merely in-progress. That is objectively very bad for two programs whose talent level never dips nearly that low.
Probably not, but definitely not a crazy thought. If he takes CU to back to back bowl games with a ton of coach of the year trophies behind his desk his name will no doubt pop up.
I don't know much about him but the fact that he's been a QB coach/OC for 5 different programs since 2008 and has never had a HC opportunity feels like a pretty big red flag. How poor does someone have to interview, or how bad at their job must the perception be to keep jumping high profile program to high profile program ever few years and never getting a promotion?
Were big enough that we shouldn't be giving someone their first head coaching gig. Too risky to the downside.
If we hire too young we stand a better chance of being fleeced. Like Sacky is alluding to, MM could get picked off for the right gig ($$$).
I like the idea of an older seasoned guy like Leavitt. Not too many stops left. Knows what he's doing.
Having Scott Frost as a coach next time we play in Lincoln is a fun a idea. You know, because, they covet him...
If we hire too young we stand a better chance of being fleeced. Like Sacky is alluding to, MM could get picked off for the right gig ($$$).
I like the idea of an older seasoned guy like Leavitt. Not too many stops left. Knows what he's doing.
Having Scott Frost as a coach next time we play in Lincoln is a fun a idea. You know, because, they covet him...
I don't know whether he was pushed out at Alabama or left on his own, but Michigan made him one of the highest paid assistants in the country so that may partly explain why he left. Brady Hoke was fired after Nussmeier's first season at Michigan so that explains his short tenure there.
Concerns about why he hasn't gotten a HC gig yet are valid, but the same can be asked of Brent Venables who lots of people seem to have a semi for.