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Official D coordinator search thread (DJ Eliot hired?)
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Mb2658
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FIFY
Well after this glowing review..
You need to prove the opposite since it contradicts everything that has been reported about what happened with Baer being let go at the end of 2014. MacIntyre wanted to change the defense to more multiple on the front out of a 3-4 base (and become more aggressive), which is what happened.
The alternate theory would be that he hired a DC and gave total control over the defense. Considering that was what Gibbs wanted and a primary reason he didn't end up at CU before HCMM went with Leavitt (and then didn't see a need to give JL much time before spring ball to work on scheme)... I don't know what support there is to the notion that JL was hired and that JL then had the idea and authority to change the defensive system.
lp866
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$575,000. Waaaaayyyyy overpaid.
I guess we'll have an opportunity to see for ourselves.
Ridiculous to draw firm conclusions about a guy who was A) along for the ride as stoops called the defensive plays and B) trying to accomplish much of anything at an afterthought program like kentucky.
brockbuff
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He wasn't along for the ride while stoops called plays. He was in charge of that for multiple years and got demoted.
No offense
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Well Leavitt made the change. Mac fired Baer cause he could not cut it at this level. Not because of the defense type. When Leavitt came in he said they were gonna be base 3-4 but he would have to understand the players before he decided if that was gonna be the case.
Leavitt made the 3-4 work with what he had.
You can give all the credit to Mac you like. But the 3-4 was decided on by Leavitt and implemented by him
brockbuff
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I agree Kentucky is an afterthought in the SEC but since Mac has been here they've had a better recruiting class every single year. He wasn't coaching slouches
buffs04
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this program has seriously squandered all of the momentum that it had 2 months ago when we were sitting at 10-2. our program looks like a tire fire now. crushed in the last two games of the season, looking like we didnt even belong on the field. lose good coaches. hire a guy who couldnt hold his position at a bottom feeder school. lose recruits. lame.
As we pointed out with sirmon, just because they were high in the rankings doesn't mean they were high in the SEC, so he could have very well been coaching slouches.
Dramatic but get the sentiment.
brockbuff
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He was coaching top 30 classes and gave up back to back 40 point, 500 yd games to southern miss and New Mexico to start out last season before gettting demoted? Kentucky doesn't have better players than they do??
My opinion is stoops was playing cover your ass to buy himself another season or two. We're going to find out.
No i understand that I'm just telling you that most of the sec recruits in the top 30.
Wow some people on here now. Give me a break with some of this.
49 pages in and I still doesn't understand how 'Official' belongs in the thread title.
"Official" usually just means that we don't want to have to clean up 20 different threads about the same topic so we'll be moving everything into this one if people start new threads on the same thing.
DrunkPanda
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David Gibbs would have been a great hire... what's his defense ranked, again? It's time people realized he got completely lucked out with the Leavitt hire, who was the actual orchestrator of "the rise". How many games did the offense completely fall apart in last season? 5 by my count, but hey, I'm sure Mac's inability to get along with a vastly superior coach (Leavitt) isn't a cause for concern. Now let's pump that sunshine!
ahoelsken
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Goofball. Read multiple Kentucky/SEC sources that have said that Eliot has let them know he's coming here.
lp866
Member
Correct.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
New Mexico runs an option offense that is really similar to the service academies. It's a nightmare for defensive coaches to prep for because it's so rare in this day and age. As an example, Air Force played at Michigan State in 2015 IIRC. Brian Griese said on that broadcast that MSU defensive coaches had begun prep for Air Force in March of that year......just to give you an idea of how difficult it is.
lp866
Member
Eliot had more than enough talent to be successful, especially in the secondary. We were very very weak on the defensive line so the first three games (for the most part) included Southern Miss, Florida, and New Mexico State running right up the middle for five yards at a time. Excruciating.
Once Stoops took over, the weakness on the defensive line seem to close. Quite a bit, actually.
Once Stoops took over, the weakness on the defensive line seem to close. Quite a bit, actually.
DrunkRalphie
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I don't believe any of the things you say because I don't believe Kentucky football fans actually exist.
lp866
Member
Tough being one obviously, although the good recruiting classes and 7-5 finish (best record in a while) at least gives hope.
There are very few that exist.
lp866
Member
This is the only recruit that Eliot even primarily or secondarily recruited this year. This recruit is also the only recruit to get an in home visit from Eliot (for quite a while).
http://247sports.com/player/quinton-bohanna-85620
http://247sports.com/player/quinton-bohanna-85620
Appreciate the perspective @lp866
I'll give the new DC, if it's Eliot, the benefit of the doubt, since every situation is unique and success can be all about right place, right time.
Best piece of advice we ever got from another fan base: "You hired the wrong coach [Dan Hawkins]; Chris Petersen is the brains." - Boise State fan, circa 2006
I'll give the new DC, if it's Eliot, the benefit of the doubt, since every situation is unique and success can be all about right place, right time.
Best piece of advice we ever got from another fan base: "You hired the wrong coach [Dan Hawkins]; Chris Petersen is the brains." - Boise State fan, circa 2006