We are going to have some challenges this year while we figure out the guard play outside of KJ.
If we play this game later in the year in our building we win it.
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Games thread - (RV) Men's bball on the road vs. #20/21 CSU (Wed., 11/29/23, 7:00 PM) & hosting Pepperdine (Sunday, 3:00 PM MT)
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We are going to have some challenges this year while we figure out the guard play outside of KJ.
If we play this game later in the year in our building we win it.
Luke
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I hate it when I’m right about our lack of toughness. Tad said post-game we didn’t show mental toughness to stick to game plan to get paint touches to start game. + no kills (of 3 stops in a row) the whole game!!!
We just made 12/20 Miami FL game vs. elite O a “Must Win.” No more Non-Con stumbles allowed! Bigger worry is teams will continue physical play against us (after FSU & CSU); we need an answer! At least we should be able to improve our mental toughness!
-Lot of parity in Top 18-37(ish) teams. If FSU & CSU keep winning, Buffs SOS will be fine on Selection Sunday. Starting this Sat. w/ FSU at North Carolina & CSU at Washington.
-Ken Pom: CSU 25; USC 30; UCLA 32; CU Buffs 35; Miami FL 44-after loss vs Kentucky.
-Still think Buffs spend season closer to Top-20, than Top-35! Boo, Hiss
’s!!!!! ✌Out!
Biggest thing I'm seeing so far is that TDS isn't fully comfortable with the new offense.
The home team wins 66+% of the time in men's college ball. This has been a fact for a long time everyone is different on the road, or this wouldn't be the case.
Great idea!
What exactly does Lampkin bring to the post game?I hate it when I’m right about our lack of toughness. Tad said post-game we didn’t show mental toughness to stick to game plan to get paint touches to start game. + no kills (of 3 stops in a row) the whole game!!!
We just made 12/20 Miami FL game vs. elite O a “Must Win.” No more Non-Con stumbles allowed! Bigger worry is teams will continue physical play against us (after FSU & CSU); we need an answer! At least we should be able to improve our mental toughness!
-Lot of parity in Top 18-37(ish) teams. If FSU & CSU keep winning, Buffs SOS will be fine on Selection Sunday. Starting this Sat. w/ FSU at North Carolina & CSU at Washington.
-Ken Pom: CSU 25; USC 30; UCLA 32; CU Buffs 35; Miami FL 44-after loss vs Kentucky.
-Still think Buffs spend season closer to Top-20, than Top-35! Boo, Hiss
I would rather put TDS or LOB or someone that has some moves down there and is a better passer
I like Lampkin as a man and a motivator, but he has a pretty weak touch around the basket
Flat_Iron_Rising
Homebrew & Prime Time = HEAVEN
They need to gel better.
I get so mad when refs call a jump ball when the defender has half a hand on the ball for a fraction of a second.
We could give it a catchy name, like the Rocky Mountain Showdown. People will flock from all over to see this!
If anyone is looking for a positive from this game, in the second half Cody realized that nobody on CSU could guard him and he was aggressive. If he plays that way in the first half we win. We need to give him the reins when the offense starts to stall out because very few people can stay in front of him and contest when he wants to get to the hoop.
Isaiah Stevens will likely be MWC player of the year, he's a bad man (who should have exhausted his eligibility).
Of course we get motivated Nique, that was expected. He's played well so far this year but his issue was always consistency, can he bring it the rest of the year when he's not playing his former team?
Tad talked about Joel Scott being the same player as Hadley. Right now I'd take Scott. Just like his brother he is so fundamentally sound and seems like a more efficient player than Hadley.
Disappointing loss but I'd love to play CSU again on any court. CU had them mostly solved in the second half other than Isaiah Stevens, who was real impressive.
Isaiah Stevens will likely be MWC player of the year, he's a bad man (who should have exhausted his eligibility).
Of course we get motivated Nique, that was expected. He's played well so far this year but his issue was always consistency, can he bring it the rest of the year when he's not playing his former team?
Tad talked about Joel Scott being the same player as Hadley. Right now I'd take Scott. Just like his brother he is so fundamentally sound and seems like a more efficient player than Hadley.
Disappointing loss but I'd love to play CSU again on any court. CU had them mostly solved in the second half other than Isaiah Stevens, who was real impressive.
He showed visible signs of frustration against FSU and last night when he made mistakes. I feel like he is a player that allows mistakes to get in his head when he should realize he's too good for that.
KJ is really good, probably the better athlete.
But Stevens play-making last night was on another level. He was exceptional at getting easy looks for his teammates, never turned the ball over, and when CSU needed big buckets he answered every time. Unfortunately for him he is undersized for the NBA but he will make a lot of money in Europe a la Cory Higgins.
None. Neither brand is strong enough to fill the stadium.
He ran it fine the first few games. Ball moved, open shots were created, looked great.
Now he looks like he'd rather be taking an o-chem final.
*comment removed for slanderous reasons*
I don’t think the offense is the problem.
I think it ties in with his general challenge with disappearing and then, when Tad gets on him to be aggressive, pressing/ forcing. He doesn't seem to be in the flow & making crisp cuts or calling for the ball like he needs to as the primary option in a 4- or 5-out motion offense.
Again, those all seem like TDS problems, not problems with our offense.
The sooner that CW gets comfortable as the #2 and TDS can move down to our third option, the better the team will be. This is why I'm fine with us taking some lumps in non-conference play as CW gets his feet wet. It'll only pay off in Feb and March.
I agree those are TDS problems. I have always agreed that TDS can't be your alpha.
agree with your second statement -- the game doesn't draw 19k
I don't think you really meant 'none', and I think you have expertise on this I don't, but I do think it would draw a crowd above the CUEC capacity.
The football game drew an average of around 70k when played at Mile High. That's 40% more than Folsom. Downgrade that number for (a) hoops less popular than fb and (b) weekday vs weekend, cuts it in half to 20%. if the basketball game drew 20% more than the CUEC, that's 13,200
different approach for a sniff test on the above:
- It seems that the game played at Ball would draw at least as much as the CUEC (which consistently sells out for this match), 11k
- lose a few Boulder people who won't go to Denver (20%?), 8800
- add a few FoCo people willing to make the drive (10% of Moby cap?), 9600
- add 2000* Denver-based CU and CSU fans who don't usually go to the on-campus games, 11600
- add 1500* Denver-based basketball fans without affiliation to either school, 13,100
* I made those numbers up, but I'm think that <20% of the attendance of a Nuggets weekday game is a realistic adder here
College games in pro stadiums suck. End of conversation, the answer is NO
Can we bring him in off the bench then?
the question was "if it happened, how many would it draw?"
nobody's asking if it should happen
You're being way too optimistic. Students wouldn't travel for that. Boulder and FoCo wouldn't travel. You'd get the Denver fans who would be fine going to a game - which is a pretty small number for hoops.
It would be an empty stadium.
I remember in like 06 the Pepsi Center tried to host a local team double-header, with us playing a non-con and CSU and DU playing each other. About 50 people attended.
ok, thanks. I believe you.
jumped ship
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we’ll beat Miami similar to our Tennessee win, it’s how these teams roll
I’m going to back off of having expectations a bit and try to enjoy watching Buffs bball for what it is. at this stage it doesn’t feel like we have the pieces for a Sweet 16. maybe we do move on from Tad if the AD actually wants to win big in bball, but won’t be this season
mostly worried now that CW will play his way into the ‘24 draft lottery but won’t be dominant enough for the team to have a special year
I’m going to back off of having expectations a bit and try to enjoy watching Buffs bball for what it is. at this stage it doesn’t feel like we have the pieces for a Sweet 16. maybe we do move on from Tad if the AD actually wants to win big in bball, but won’t be this season
mostly worried now that CW will play his way into the ‘24 draft lottery but won’t be dominant enough for the team to have a special year
I was there!
and yes, it sucked
Got a handful of mousepads from it, kept them all except CSU. F those guys
Dislike losing to the Rams, but wasn't expecting a win. Moby can be a tough place to play, especially for CU since its always a big crowd.
I was encouraged after the game. Buffs put up a fight and looked like the better team in the 2nd half at least. A bit worried about perimeter shooting but the new offense is working, would like to see them run more p&r.
I was encouraged after the game. Buffs put up a fight and looked like the better team in the 2nd half at least. A bit worried about perimeter shooting but the new offense is working, would like to see them run more p&r.